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Jordan Posted Oct 11, 2003
Uh-oh. I'll send you a message soon. Now, time for laundry!
- Jordan
(Yes, students /do/ actually wash their clothes, you cheeky sods. )
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Noggin the Nog Posted Oct 11, 2003
I see I've arrived late. As usual.
Hi Jordan.
The journey's the thing, if only because you can never be sure that you've arrived at your destination.
Neither truth nor ethics are either Absolute or arbitrary. Imagine how horrible it would be if they were both!
Noggin
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Dr Anthea - ah who needs to learn things... just google it! Posted Oct 11, 2003
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Insight Posted Oct 11, 2003
Why do I see you on H2G2, with messages saying, 'Posted 2 minutes ago', but not on MSN messenger?
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Matholwch - Brythonic Tribal Polytheist Posted Oct 12, 2003
Hi Jordan
"Treehuggers". If you had ever met any trees you'd know how daft that is. Even with trees I know I wouldn't presume to such behaviour!
Druidry is not as wide as perhaps I have painted it. It has an open perspective, yet fairly narow goals. My guide entry (plug, plug) covers it in depth so I won't repeat myself here.
As for the rest of you... I couldn't claim Jordan if I wanted to. Like most philosophies the person has to choose it, not the other way around, and we don't pagans go out evangelising. If you ever meet any evangelical pagans, run. They are frauds and probably after your money.
Blessings,
Matholwch /|\.
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Jordan Posted Oct 12, 2003
Because I do most of my work at ITS, which has blocked installation of MSN messenger, though not h2g2...
BTW, can you e-mail me your new phone number? Mine is 02476 523 523, extension 25333. I think. Or something like that... :-S
- Jordan
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Insight Posted Oct 12, 2003
Can who e-mail you their new phone number?
You were replying to my post, but my phone number is the same as it always has been.
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Rik Bailey Posted Oct 20, 2003
Thats great, really it is.
Sorry every one seems to think i need to be more positive....
Nah its just not me. I'm happy having a slightly negative look on life.
As we are talking about finding inner peace I though I would just mention that.
What do you all think, do you think its wrong or bad to have a negative out look even if the person is used to it and happy with it.
Is it essential to have a positive out look to get some where in life?
comments??????????????
Adib
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azahar Posted Oct 20, 2003
hi Muzaakboy,
I don't think a negative outlook can ever actually help, though I'm not sure what you mean by 'negative'. Is it truly negative or perhaps more an ironic or even a cynical viewpoint? Well, I tend to think that cynics are more than somewhat negative. Irony, on the other hand, is humourous and helps us to see things through less than rose-tinted glasses. Which I think helps a lot!
Why do you have a negative outlook on life? Bad experiences?
I think a positive outlook does help most of the time, though by this I don't mean a lah-de-dah mindless positive view of the world. I mean an intelligent positive viewpoint *in spite* of what we see around us.
>>Is it essential to have a positive out look to get some where in life?<<
Where do you want to go?
az
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Rik Bailey Posted Oct 20, 2003
I know what your saying, and I agree to a certain degree.
but...
yeah I have had bad stuff happen in my life, who hasn't?
I do have a negative out look butIts not that negative.
for instance I never expect good things to happen and I don't expect bad things to happen.
I just wait and see.
For me its a case of "If you thing some thing may not happen its a win win situation but if you think some things going to happen then its a win lose situation".
I mean if some thing does not work out, like say finding a job, and you just think to your self theres a small chance I get it but I may not then if you do not get it you will not be botheed to much as you already expected that, but if you get it then you will be pleasently surprised.
But if you think yeah I probabley will get the job then you don't get it you will be effected more from that failiure and if you get the job it will just increase your own ego.
I don't really see what I have as a negative out look and I don't see it as a positive out look. My out look is a well what ever happens, its not going to bother me because I did my best an I can always try again.
Everyone I know see's that as a negative out look.
Though I admit I do expect things to go wrong more that I do about them going right.
I just wanted peoples thoughts on is it essential to be positive to get some where in life.
I did have a positive out look on one thing once and that went wrong, wasn't my fault but I guess these days that means I just wont take things for granted.
Adib
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azahar Posted Oct 20, 2003
Sounds more like a fatalistic sort of outlook - that whatever happens is going to happen anyhow. So you hedge your emotional bets by trying not to hope too much for what you want. I don't think this is necessarily 'negative'. Just realistic.
On the other hand, hoping for things can be very pleasant as long as we don't get too disappointed if what we hoped for does not work out.
I also think that having a positive frame of mind can *sometimes* help things to happen.
So, if you *always* expect things to go wrong then maybe they will. Not necessarily because of your feelings but perhaps because of the energy you put out. Like (for example) you go for a job interview and think there is no way no day you are ever going to get this job. Well, the other person will pick up on that feeling you are projecting. But if you go in thinking you are the best thing since sliced bread and you *are* totally who they need, they will sense a totally other sort of energy coming from you. In either case you still may end up not getting the job, but isn't it more pleasant to go in feeling like all things are possible rather than you are defeated even before you step out of your house? I think so.
People do pick up on what we project. Even if they don't realize they are doing it, and even if we don't realize what it is we are projecting.
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Oh, you need to take more risks. It's a big big world full of all sorts of people and situations. You can't let one bad experience colour how you deal with the rest of your life. That would not be fair to you.
Everytime I have an interview with a new student (I teach private English classes) I go to that interview totally sure that I am the best teacher for them and then I tell them so. And mostly it works! Sometimes it doesn't, but then I realize that this is probably not the sort of student I would be happy teaching. It works both ways.
I never expect that things will always go right, though I continue to hope they will.
az
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Rik Bailey Posted Oct 23, 2003
Oh hey yeah I know exactly what you mean.
When I get a job interview I usually think well I may not get it but if I don't try then I will never know.
when I go for the interview I am very positive and every thing but as soon as I get home I'm like, I probably wont get the job but I gave it my best shot so I wont be bothered to much by it.
I think I'm more nuetral really, I'm not positive or negative just inbetween as I don't really expect either to happen but I make plans incase the bad does.
So I guess the answer to rether or not you need to be positive to get some where in life is:
No not really but it does help to be positive in small amounts.
Adib
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