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spook Started conversation Jun 3, 2003
i haven't been on h2g2 or the internet since 1 am last thursday, and just read through 215 e-mails. i shall now take the chalenge of catching up with h2g2 backlog.
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OwlofDoom Posted Jun 3, 2003
Make sure you make note of the new <./>HouseRules</.> about flooding threads...
Make sure you make note of the new <./>HouseRules</.> about flooding threads...
Make sure you make note of the new <./>HouseRules</.> about flooding threads...
Make sure you make note of the new <./>HouseRules</.> about flooding threads...
Make sure you make note of the new <./>HouseRules</.> about flooding threads...
Make sure you make note of the new <./>HouseRules</.> about flooding threads...
Make sure you make note of the new <./>HouseRules</.> about flooding threads...
Make sure you make note of the new <./>HouseRules</.> about flooding threads...
Make sure you make note of the new <./>HouseRules</.> about flooding threads...
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Ace Rimmer [pretending] Posted Jun 3, 2003
That was very naughty of you.
Shame on you...
Shame on you...
Shame on you...
Shame on you...
Shame on you...
Shame on you...
Shame on you...
Shame on you...
Shame on you...
Shame on you...
about the repetetive joke
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Tango Posted Jun 3, 2003
And neither were funny, because the new rules only apply to NEW ACCOUNTS.
Tango
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spook Posted Jun 3, 2003
well, i must say:
i've come back, read my e-mails, looked at my h2g2 postings backlog, read a couple of entries in the latest issue of the post, and am not particularly excited about any of it.
- the e-mails, most of which are h2g2 related, seem to go on and on and are really very boring to read in one go.
- the postings also seem to drag, as does all backlog, yet i don't feel particularly inclined to start jumping back into them.
- the entries of post are of course still of a gerat quality.
i am giving great consideration to the following things:
- Resigning from my position as a Guru
- Resigning from my position as a Scout
- Resigning from voluntering to help out the UG
- Writing an entry critiscising the Editors on a number of issues, as well as certain volunteer groups, and perhaps going into editorial policy.
The first 2 are almost definite, the last 1 is definitely definite, i just don't know when i'll get around to starting it/finishing it/putting it on h2g2, and the third 1 is not definite but likely since it isn't really going anywhere fast, and things are being overtalked instead of got on with, i feel i am in an outside group POV, and a few comments that have been made over the past few months from members of that group have bothered me.
I think i will probably leave the UG editor vote but stay as a volunteer, at least for now, to keep into what's going on. I will probably try to get a policy set up to get rejected UG entris sent to the Spaced Out Guide, which does need updating etc which i will get too after my exams.
As far as my entry is concerned, I think I will call it 'H2G2's Darkest Hour' or something along those lines. Suggestions welcome.
Well, that's all i got to say for now.
spook
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Tango Posted Jun 3, 2003
There is a thread going on about editorial policy... where is it?... hang on... ah! F47999?thread=282976 That's the one. You should read that first. I'll help you with your entry. I would have written one myself ages ago, but i didn't have personal experience to back some bits up, so i didn't. But with your help, it would work.
Tango
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OwlofDoom Posted Jun 3, 2003
What? Where? Who? What have I missed? The only editorial decision I've seen these last few days is the anti-spam one, which is great!
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Tango Posted Jun 3, 2003
not decision, thread. It's the one where you got credit but you don't think you did anything.
Tango
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OwlofDoom Posted Jun 3, 2003
No, I was asking why Spook was thinking of quitting those two posts and writing angry entry about editors...
That thread has nowt to do with editorial policy, the Italics have not been involved in it yet.
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Felonious Monk - h2g2s very own Bogeyman Posted Jun 3, 2003
Don't leave under a cloud. Several people have left this project in the past, generally criticising it in some way. OK, so some of them were hardly a great loss, but it could seem like 'sour grapes' on your part.
Work within the system to improve it as much as you can, and remember that we all have limits to our ability to change things.
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Nitina the Pig (see my new personal space!) Posted Jun 3, 2003
Well you haven't really missed much to be honest!
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spook Posted Jun 3, 2003
Tango: I'll make sure i'll take a look at that thread at some time. i'll write the entry and e-mail it you and ask if you have anything you'd like to add befoer i add it to h2g2. you can then e-mail me back, i'll incorporate what you'd like me too then i'll put it on the site. i may send it through the bugfinders since i know quite a few people there may like to add stuff.
FM: The reason i'm probably gonna resign from volunteer groups is because:
a) The Guru scheme, well, doen't really do much. The majority of people on h2g2 will lend advice to people if they are asked, and I don't really go out looking for people to help, so there's no reason i need to be a Guru, ecept for the claim to a badge, something i've lost excitement about since I got chucked off the ACE scheme, lost a badge, and realised i really didn't care about the badge.
b) I do not have a great liking of the editors. Don't get me wrong, they are nice people, but i simply do not consider them to be doing a great job, something i will go into detail about when writing the entry.
c) I was chucked off the ACE scheme, and didn't like it.
d) The entry I write well be very critical, especially of the editors. I'm gonna keep a copy of the House Rules up so i make sure i don't break any House Rules, but the way things are going, bad things said about the editors could result in punishment, like bad speech about Bush is in America, and the first thing they'd jump to do as punishment would be to chuck me off the volunteer schemes like they did with SEF, and i'd rather leave of my own accord then because of a dispute.
If anyone of the UG comes around here after I've pulled out of being in the editorial vote for the UG if i decide to, the reason is that I am getting the distinct impression that the UG editor votes will be a lot like the Eurovision votes: Political!
Owl: Don't worry about editorial decisions that I may critiscise in the entry. They may be recent or flawed editorial policy that's been around a while, i haven't thought about it too much. In answer to your more questions:
1. Answer above about resigning from groups.
2. It's not an angry letter as such, but a very critical one. Looking at the negative points, which I feel outnumber the positive points at the moment. In my opinion, as well as a few others, h2g2 is in it's worse times, and times that can only be settled by a change of editors, which, by the amount of editorial change there has been in just 4 years, should mean that in 5 years h2g2 should be entering a silver or golden age. The entry will be looking back at times gone by, as well as the persent time, for some comparisons. The entry will look at volunteer groups, particularly the community artists and the scouts. The entry will be very long, and may take a while to appear on h2g2, since i'm in the middle of exams and it may not be finished to a while after, especially if parts will be added by other people.
The fact that the entry will take a long time may mean that I will stay a volunteer a little while longer, however, i will probably resign, if just to decrease the amount of e-mails i get per day by about 50!
I may stay in the running for UG editor, if just to found out i was totally right about political voting, or perhaps popularity voting is the word. As with all votes, it is likely that I will lose in the voting by popularity, just like Jon is up for eviction because of popularity!
Nitina: You're right, i haven't missed much, but it took me about 30 mins to catch up with nothing!
spook
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Tango Posted Jun 4, 2003
Post 13: "That thread has nowt to do with editorial policy, the Italics have not been involved in it yet."
It has everything to do with editorial policy, it is a proposal to change it. It isn't yet an official policy, but that doesn't mean it doesn't have anything to do with policy.
Spook, re guru's not doing anything: I agree, i left the guru scheme during the Iraq policy "incident", and i have yet to reapply, yet i answer just as many questions now as i did before i quit, no-one takes my answers less seriously because i don't have the badge, i doubt they check. I help the community just as well without being too closely involved with the TPTB (NB: i am refering to h2g2 only, the dna team are still doing their usual excellent job ).
Tango
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spook Posted Jun 4, 2003
Exactly Tango. And the ACEs as well are a particularly lesser group in group terms. ACEs welcome people, and try to keep the piece, yet as a community we should all try to keep the peace, and H2G2 Guardian Angels do just as good a job at ACEing as ACEs, so once again the scheme is really just for the badge.
The University scheme is good, yet it is not promoted well enough or used well enough or anything. I will put quite a bit of focus on that.
The Scout and Sub-ed schemes are good, although I wil have quite a bit of focus on the Scouts themselves and how they treat PR.
The Community Artist scheme is hypocritical I must say. I wil probably add SEF to add a bit of light on this issue, however, for a scheme containing the word 'community' i do not see much art being done for the 'community'. It seems the scheme should be renamed 'Edited Guide Artist' since that's basically all the do, and the exceptions will be focused on too.
So, name of the entry. Here are a few of my ideas:
~ H2G2's Darkest Hour
~ H2G2 - Darkness Falls
~ H2G2: Behind The Laughter
~ H2G2: Beneath The Surface
~ The Truth Of H2G2
~ H2G2's Secrets Revealed (by the unmasked researcher and his assistants)
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Oot Rito Posted Jun 4, 2003
er.... what's with the name change. Is it more 'angry young man'-ish?
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