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Effers;England. Posted Nov 20, 2011
I'm also proud that my very closest friend here, anhaga, wouldn't in a million years turn up on kea's ps telling her what's what and how to behave. I'd be ashamed to have a friend that INSENSITIVE. I wouldn't want kea hurt by some other party coming in to something they couldn't understand.
I don't think she would be so happy you've done this to me.
The person I got to really like over 5 years hasn't gone away.
She is clearly very unhappy and not herself..I worry about her a lot.
Even if she hates me forever I don't her..I can't switch it off..
I don't want you here EVER AGAIN.
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Effers;England. Posted Nov 20, 2011
Oh you're right it's your ps.
I repeat my very close friend who knows how affected I've been, and has had some problem himself with kea, wouldn't DREAM of doing what you are doing.
He would know how destructive that would be for her..how hurtful.
He tried briefly to help but hardly engaged with mediation. He was incredibly sensitive about it and stood outside things.
He knows its ENTIRELY between me and kea. End of.
Third parties getting involved cause huge destruction..because they don't get the actual relationship..only the parties involved know that.
In therapy which I've done..huge sensitivity is shown to make sure all parties feel SAFE..before intervention happens.
They know how damaging and dangerous it is to set off explosive emotions.
I already said to you the last time you came calling..that it isn't a good idea to stir up a hornets nest.
You've now done it a second time.
I'm not sure how this is going to go now..those hornets are completely out with my control.
In the past when you were hitting on me..for a one to one you said you didn't understand me...so what the are you doing talking to me?
I could say a lot of contemptuous and nasty things to you about my opinions of you.
I can't be bothered.
I can see the agenda.
I can see lots.
But anyway kea is safe. No friend of mine will be bothering her.
Whatever eventually happens will be between her and I.
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Effers;England. Posted Nov 20, 2011
I finally brought myself to read your post.
>I want to see Kea protected from the worst excesses of you<
kea is not a child. She is an adult. She doesn't need protecting by other people. And the 'worst excesses of me' as you so charmingly put it are to do with a lot of love. That is my overiding feeling. And yes maybe that is too much..but it's not be nastily described as 'worst excesses'.
It's a very good thing. It's a word rarely used here. In my culture love is normal. People use that word all the time. I see it used once in a blue moon on this site..and even then in some safe trivial way..terribly British.
What's said is utterly horrible.
You could protect her from life itself even..then she'd be really safe.
Pathetic.
How come she survived the last 5 years of my excesses without someone else around to protect her.
This is incredible that you come here and say such things.
I'm unbelievably overwrought by all this.
I sent one email to someone.
I will email tomorrow if I'm calmer to Eds.
I would like to talk to her in a safe place but there's no such thing in this place.
I give up.
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Peanut Posted Nov 20, 2011
I'm going to shift this discussion
Your behaviour, your attitude has been called in more than one thread, on alsorts, by a number of people, over the last 3(?) or so days, it has been quite vocal
do you not see how that is spiralling for you
until tonight I don't think Kea came into it
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Effers;England. Posted Nov 20, 2011
Tonorrow I'm going to have talk with neutral people.
I'm going to explain to the Eds just how very serious this now is.
I'm gong to ask if they can sort something out.
Its too much for me since you did this. You simply don't know what you are dealing with.
But deep down I don't trust you.
But I do kea.
Right I'm trying to deal with it and I'll do what I said tomorrow
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Effers;England. Posted Nov 20, 2011
And yes other threads are affected by THIS.
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Effers;England. Posted Nov 20, 2011
You are not a psychotherapist.
I did that for 5 years...with a top person. I know stuff you'll never ever know.
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Peanut Posted Nov 20, 2011
No Effers, your behaviour in other threads brought you and me to this
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Peanut Posted Nov 20, 2011
Stop telling me that I know nothing and can not possibly understand you
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Effers;England. Posted Nov 20, 2011
Well straight away you miss the blinding obvious..
The reason I have all these problems on other threads is because of that problem.
Do you really not see that?
No you won't understand me not ever..not even close...
where's my cricket bat?
Goodnight and good luck.
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Peanut Posted Nov 20, 2011
'that problem' it is 'your problem', do you not see that
as in yours to deal with
not keas, not mine, not everyone who wants to hang out in ask, not the mods not the CEs
how many extensions do you expect?
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Effers;England. Posted Nov 20, 2011
>not keas,<
Why are you lecturing me about her again? Are you her mouth piece? Are you connected to her brain?
Do you now think for her?
Blimey.
What extensions? Are you speaking for her now? Yourself? Anyone else?
Straight question.
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Effers;England. Posted Nov 20, 2011
I'm going to have such a good long talk tomorrow with the Eds about all this.
My head is scrambled.
I don't know what you mean.
It's all vague suggestion...and paranoia inducing. Only the other day you said you no longer took part in discussions or lurking.
And yet now you speak to me as if you had some power here to deal with me..
I have a long standing friendship with kea of many years. It went wrong a few months ago..now suddenly getting all this stuff from you since BBC h2g2 ended.
I will talk all about this to the eds tomorrow and also how profoundly upsetting and disturbing I find it.
I have enough to deal with..and you think you can keep posting stuff to me that really scares and upsets me.
But I'll talk to them tomorrow about the whole thing.
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Effers;England. Posted Nov 20, 2011
>'that problem' it is 'your problem', do you not see that
Yes when I say problem of course I mean its mine. It's my painful experience.
Why would you say, 'do you not see that'?
Are you deliberately trying to send me mad with the idea that me experiencing a problem would be anything else but mine?
You repeatedly post stuff that makes no sense based on what *I* have posted.
You are doing a good job of sending me crazy. Seriously you really are. I don't have normal defences to stuff that makes no sense.
Where's my cricket bat? (Thank you anhaga so much for giving me that quote. It might just save my sanity).
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Peanut Posted Nov 20, 2011
I have no volunteer role, I have no influence in any decisions I am just a researcher.
I don't speak for Kea, I wouldn't assume to speak on her behalf
She has established the boundaries for herself and they are here for everyone to see. It is just you that doesn't get them
Your responses are here for everyone to see
I am not deliberatly trying to do anything to you
I don't stalk you, monitor you, snoop, in anyway, and that has been said to you before, specifically about Ask, can't avoid you
I do read your journal sometimes
you are not dealing with this conversation well. Stop puting your inability to deal with it back on me
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Effers;England. Posted Nov 20, 2011
I will make good long email to the eds tomorrow about *everything* They are already aware.
And will entirely trust them to make their minds up about things.
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Peanut Posted Nov 20, 2011
That is probably for the best
I do actually hope that things can work out
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