h2g2 The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: Earth Edition

According to all available evidence, and giant meteors aside, we have several tens of millions of years before we need to worry about the end of the world.

On what grounds do you believe the world will end sooner than that?

(Please, don't just quote scripture or the NWT, give actual real evidence to match them.)

You like many use the meaning of world to refer to the planet, when in reality the populated globe is also the world or system of thing.

If you think that the system of things is going to last much longer, you have no understanding of human nature or accountancy.

James

No, I meant the thin skin of life - a meteor strike would wipe out life without particularly damaging the planet itself. In no mentions of the end of the world have I meant "the destruction of the planet".

So, please clarify the meaning of "the system of things":

a) All life currently living on Earth.

b) All human life currently living on Earth.

c) The current political paradigm.

Daniel 2: 44 is self-explanatory, the ruler-ship that the God of the heavens sets up will replace all ruler-ships.

And revelation 21: 34 shows us what the benefits will be, and who will be performing these benefits.

You can look them up in the bible of your preference.

James

So, it's just a political change - democratic government will be replaced by e theocracy or deocracy, depending on whether you expect god to run his own kingdom.

Now, back to post 21 (which you haven't responded to yet)

> According to all available evidence, and giant meteors aside, we have several tens of millions of years before we need to worry about the end of the world.

> On what grounds do you believe the world will end sooner than that?

> (Please, don't just quote scripture or the NWT, give actual real evidence to match them.)

Sorry Kiteman I am not smatter than the creator of the world, and he says

Psalm 104:4-5
Making his angels spirits, His ministers a devouring fire. He has founded the earth upon its established places; It will not be made to totter to time indefinite, or forever.

Psalm 37:11
But the meek ones themselves will possess the earth, And they will indeed find their exquisite delight in the abundance of peace.

But you claim that we are in the end times.

What world events are matched by scriptural passages that show we have reached that point?

Evidence, James, not fake modesty which belies your entire posting history.

The eighth king is a primarily recognised as a world event because he is so unique.

Most historians have a problem getting past the Roman world power which the scriptures indicate would be the last of the world powers, but a scripture in Revelation shows us how some changes occur which are easily recognisable today now we see the last world power in existence.

There is only one arrangement in history that exists today that fits what was prophesied.

That prophecy is about the League of Nations, which disappeared for a short period then, re-appeared as the united nation.

There are only two accessions when all the kings of the earth have devised an arrangement were they all rule together.The league of nation which became
The UN which is unmistakably the eighth king of history.


Revelation 17:7-14
I will tell you the mystery of the woman and of the wild beast that is carrying her and that has the seven heads and the ten horns: The wild beast that you saw was, but is not, and yet is about to ascend out of the abyss, and it is to go off into destruction.

And when they see how the wild beast was, but is not, and yet will be present, those who dwell on the earth will wonder admiringly, but their names have not been written upon the scroll of life from the founding of the world. Here is where the intelligence that has wisdom comes in:

The seven heads mean seven mountains, where the woman sits on top. And there are seven kings:
Five have fallen, one is, the other has not yet arrived, but when he does arrive he must remain a short while.

And the wild beast that was but is not, it is also itself an eighth [king], but springs from the seven, and it goes off into destruction.

And the ten horns that you saw mean ten kings, who have not yet received a kingdom, but they do receive authority as king’s one hour with the wild beast.

These have one thought, and so they give their power and authority to the wild beast. These will battle with the Lamb, but, because he is Lord of lords and King of kings, the Lamb will conquer them. Also, those called and chosen and faithful with him [will do so].

James

That's not evidence, that's interpreting surrealism to fit presumptions.

There have been a lot more than eight kings, eight nations, eight empires in world history.

On what grounds do you pick and choose which ones to say are the ones in the bible?

No I do not but the Almighty does, not only does he pick and choose he gives a list and explains who they are and why, so we all know what to look for.

To see how it works read Daniel chapter two and seven

James

Have you worked out yet why the weather has changed for the worse, I am unable to recommend a scientist reliable enough to explain it to you, so you will have to find your own one.

James

What is that about?

I ask you to provide evidence to back up your claims that evolution is wrong, and that the Earth is not heated by radioactivity, so you ask about global warming instead?

We did this to death - GW is real, it's anthropomorphic, get over it.

Anthropomorphic characterised by anthropomorphism
The attribution of a human form or personality to a god animal or thing.

What has that to do with any thing?

You say you have no belief in a God, yet you support the status quo, why are you not making the most of the few years you have left, instead of wasting your time with the Christian forum and me?

James

If you're going to expound on a subject, it's usually a good idea to know something about it first.

Anthropomorphic global warming is global warming caused by human activity.

> You say you have no belief in a God, yet you support the status quo

I would have said that conforming to theism was supporting the status quo.

You keep claiming we are in the end times. Yet you provide no actual evidence. What *actual* events demonstrably coincide with biblical prophecies of the end?

> why are you not making the most of the few years you have left, instead of wasting your time with the Christian forum and me?

Because the evidence is that I have 20-40 years left in me, and a lot more in the human race.

You still have not shown why you are so convinced we are in the end times. ANd, since you have raised the question, why are you wasting your time with the christian forums and with me, instead of cherishing your last days with your loved ones?

I'm fairly sure of the answer, though; if you're not actively witnessing come the actual End, you don't get to survive it. I guess posting on messageboards slaves your conscience enough to believe you'll make it.

(Quite aside from the problem that you are not actually supposed to be associating with worldly folk like this - better hope god doesn't notice!)

Here is one for starters>>

(2 Peter 3:3-4
For you know this first, that in the last days there will come ridicule’s with their ridicule, proceeding according to their own desires and saying: Where is this promised presence of his? Why, from the day our forefathers fell asleep [in death], all things are continuing exactly as from creation’s beginning.

Proverbs 1:22-25
How long will you inexperienced ones keep loving inexperience, and [how long] must you ridicule’s desire for yourselves outright ridicule, and [how long] will you stupid ones keep hating knowledge? Turn back at my reproof. Then to you I will cause my spirit to bubble forth; I will make my words known to you. Because I have called out but you keep refusing, I have stretched out my hand but there is no one paying attention, and you keep neglecting all my counsel, and my reproof you have not accepted,

Here is one I gave you ages ago but you have missed the point of it.>>>>

Revelation 16:8-9
And the fourth one poured out his bowl upon the sun; and to [the sun] it was granted to scorch the men with fire. And the men were scorched with great heat,

but they blasphemed the name of God, who has the authority over these plagues,

and they did not repent so as to give glory to him.


Note they are not too bright as they do not repent they remain in their sickness.

James

2 Peter 3:3-4

For this to be true, ridicule of religion would have to be a new thing. Since people have been ridiculing religion since Day One, that is no prophecy, just a sop to those disheartened by the ridicule.

Proverbs 1:22-25

People hating knowledge is a sign of the end? Good job YECs are in the minority, and that the majority of the planet value a good education.

Revelation 16:8-9

I didn't miss the point, I dismissed it - global warming is not solar-driven and sunspots have no affect on the climate. It will be several million years before the Sun's activity has a warming effect on our climate.

The existence of blasphemers is no predictor, either, since that existed since Day One of religion as well.

Your obvious denial of the facts, does render you somewhat unacceptable as a teacher.

If the next few days weather does not convince you that there is some serious defect in mans calculations in this regard, we will just have to let time prove the case, in this matter.

James

What "facts" am I denying? You have presented none.

> If the next few days weather does not convince you that there is some serious defect in mans calculations in this regard, we will just have to let time prove the case, in this matter.

How will a winter storm, happening in the winter, prove that there is no global warming?

(You do know it's winter now, don't you?)

Is that your way of getting round the facts that are stacking up in front of you?

We also know that all the water that we are getting is due to global warming.
We also know the wind is due to global warming.

Never the less these conditions can only come about if we are not getting hotter but coooooler. I explained to you in simple terms last year the mechanics of this weather and why it would appear now it is here all you can say it is to be expected in winter.

You mean like the October storm in the eighties?

James