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Good_News Posted Jul 28, 2005
"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you".
That does not mean we should allow murder to go unpunished. And as for this religious hatred law, it will cause more problems than it will solve, the main reason is that it does not define hatred. Besides, this is just an anti-Christian, pro-Muslim law. And that is obvious seeing as how no Christian group was consulted about it and Muslims are now asking to be excempt from it. Although many Muslims do see the problem with this law and know that it will simply cause more bad feeling between faiths rather than help it.
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Good_News Posted Jul 28, 2005
'The death penalty ain't very complicated'
Yes but it is not legal.
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Vicki Virago - Proud Mother Posted Jul 28, 2005
Actually...the death penalty IS legal in this country.
Go look it up. I shall tell you why it is legal if you wish, but lets see if you can find out why.
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Kyra Posted Jul 28, 2005
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If you think it's offensive why did you put it in your journal under the heading "Satanic Filth"?
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And how many's that? Have you got a number in mind? What if you don't make your quota?
And BTW, what's the difference between the fires of hell and the lake of fire?
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Good_News Posted Jul 28, 2005
'the death penalty IS legal in this country.'
I'm afraid it isn't. It used to be legal for High Treason but they had to scrap it to fit into the UN human rights or something like that.
Unless you are thinking of something else.
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Vicki Virago - Proud Mother Posted Jul 28, 2005
Nope. It is STILL law for High Treason. The Royal Family are protected by this law
"I'm afraid it isn't. It used to be legal for High Treason but they had to scrap it to fit into the UN human rights or something like that."
Soooo....America isn't part of the UN then? What about all the other countries who still practice it?
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Good_News Posted Jul 28, 2005
'Nope. It is STILL law for High Treason.'
It isn't. The Criminal Justice Bill in 1998 removed High treason and piracy with violence as capital crimes thus ending the death penalty.
And on the 27th of January 1999, Jack Straw signed the 6th protocol of the European Convention of Human Rights in Strasbourg, formally abolishing the death penalty in the UK.
I'm afraid I'm right here.
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Matholwch - Brythonic Tribal Polytheist Posted Jul 28, 2005
Hi Good News,
There are still loopholes. Military law is still exempt under the Treaty of Rome. Thus the crimes of Mutiny and Arson in Her Majesty's Dockyards may still betreated as capital offences.
Ho hum
Blessings,
Matholwch /|\
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Good_News Posted Jul 28, 2005
'Thus the crimes of Mutiny and Arson in Her Majesty's Dockyards may still betreated as capital offences.'
Perhaps but I seriously doubt the death penalty would be used.
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GrandSamDonald Posted Jul 28, 2005
Excuse me for butting in here, but what on earth has the Treaty of Rome got to do with this?
The accursed European Union has no say whatsoever in our criminal laws.
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Vicki Virago - Proud Mother Posted Jul 28, 2005
I suppose we'd best wait for terrorists to strike at the Dock Yards then
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Matholwch - Brythonic Tribal Polytheist Posted Jul 28, 2005
Hi Sam
The Treaty of Rome is the document that formed the EU. There were exemptions under it including all military law and forces. Thus no other EU directive since has had any real force with regard to the conduct of our Armed Forces.
The blessed European Union has a lot of say in our criminal laws. I suggest you do some research before shooting your mouth off .
Blessings,
Matholwch /|\
Je suis un European.
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GrandSamDonald Posted Jul 28, 2005
Matholwch,
I am very aware of that accursed Treaty and the terrible way it has destroyed this country, but the 6th protocol of the European Convention of Human Rights has nothing whatsoever to do with the European Union. Brussels, for all their sins, had nothing to do with this. It is part of an entirely different legal framework, one which was incorporated into domestic law under the abominable Human Rights Act. A common misapprehension.
But Good News is right - under the Human Rights Act the death penalty is now illegal in this land of ours. Needless to say, I believe it should be legalised and I shall post a separate journal entry on that very subject later today.
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Matholwch - Brythonic Tribal Polytheist Posted Jul 28, 2005
Hi Sam
I am starting to fathom where you are coming from. You see the right to religious freedom, enshrined in the Human Rights Act as a threat.
Instead of us all being SUBJECTS of Her Protestant Majesty, head of the Anglican Church, the act effectively severs the state rights of that movement and instead makes us FREE citizens of the European Union.
Sorry my friend your monopoly on state administered religious 'truth' ended in the 1950's with the repeal of the Fraudulent Mediums Act which allowed the old and native religions of these isles to re-emerge.
It is no use cursing the EU (isn't cursing a sin?) the genie is already out of the box and your sad middle-eastern death cult is in a terminal decline.
Blessings,
Matholwch /|\
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GrandSamDonald Posted Jul 28, 2005
Matholwch
Did you not understand my last post?
The Human Rights Act has NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do with the European Union. The laws of the European Union has NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do with our criminal justice system or human rights.
The two systems are both rather nasty, but they are distinct, and as a student of international relations I can tell you that you just stop confusing the two.
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The Cybercontroller from Telos Posted Jul 28, 2005
Would you want to kill witches? You love to use that quote. You say that children that die young are going to hell. Tell me how you would give comfort to greiving parents? You talk about Blair messing scripture when translated versions of the bible like the cause of a lot of suffering the KJV one are not true and accruate versions of the original. If god creates the bible and therefore 'perfect' how can your one be more perfect? http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/brunel/F2209693?thread=691266
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