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Ben to Effers

Post 101

Effers;England.


Yes it is absolutely horrible. I can't imagine why someone would do such a thing. They really weren't that bad posts. people know about my struggles with mental health at present. And half of what I say isn't to be taken too seriously..surely people know that?

I have no idea who I can trust here anymore. That's enough to send someone with my vulnerability mad.

And although I get stroppy I feel I contribute a lot of positivity here..and it was me trying really really hard not to cause problems for others...it was done for good intentions for the community.


Ben to Effers

Post 102

Effers;England.


I mean I don't even know if I can trust you it's that bad...but someone has it in for me.


Ben to Effers

Post 103

Effers;England.


Thinking more about it, I do trust you..that's why I came here.


Ben to Effers

Post 104

Mrs Zen

That puts me in a hard position - you can trust my integrity, and you can trust my good intentions towards you. And you can trust me to think carefully about something and take advice from other people.

However, I will always put the Community first, and I will try to be as fair as I can be. That means that I won't always take your side. It means I won't always take *anyone's* side. Some people think that makes me a disloyal friend.

Is the yikesing worse at the weekends? It's possible that the posts are being caught in the filther and reviewed by the mods, rather than being seen and yikesed by a person.

I am speculating here, but say, for example, that Fucshia was sometimes a bad word and sometimes ok, in the way that "bitch" is not ok if you say it about a person but fine if you say it about a labrador. Well, if you start writing about your Fucshia cuttings, then the Mods may look at the post to check its ok. And as you know we've had a lot of times recently when rules for other boards are applied to h2g2. It could be that your posts are being pulled by the mods, but not actually being yikesed.

This is 100% speculation. Modding may not work that way, and even if it does someone may feel that your posts over-step the boundary and be yikesing them.

I wish I could be more helpful.

Take care of yourself.

Ben


Ben to Effers

Post 105

Effers;England.


Of course I don't expect you to take my side.

No it was nothing to do with the filther and one of the posts is back now 201 in the rip thread.

I don't want anyone taking sides. That would make me look incredibly dim. Do you honestly think that about me? This is half the problem here for me..people keep misunderstanding. My whole point is to put community first..that's why I started that thread to stop myself being disruptive to the community during this period. That's why its so upsetting.

Yes yikesing is worse at weekends. people here have been talking about that for months.

And what annoys me is that if community was really taken seriously there'd be some sort of structured mediation set up. It would only need to be used very ocassionally for severe problems like between myself and kea. She said she was happy to do that. I said no but if there had been a proper structure here I'd do it I think.

I'd be happy to do it myself if I learnt a bit about it.

I can't believe you wouldn't know by now how seriously I take community.

Anyway I don't have much hope for noohootoo now.

I live in a place that is all about community. That's why I choose to live here.

But I can see you've completely misunderstood me..and that I'm so upset that my good intentions for community have been messed up by someone with nasty intentions for whatever reason.


Ben to Effers

Post 106

Effers;England.


Actually there's nobody here now that wouldn't keep on misunderstanding. anhaga is the closest and he's very busy at present.

The only person here in the *past* 5 years was kea..but I've lost that.

But then I lost so much in real life..so this is nothing new.

I tried talking to Z by email but he kept misunderstanding.

There is simply very few people here that someone like me can really relate to.

But that will be the tone of the future noohootoo..and IMO its going to be very limited..if there are no structures for dealing with *conflict* My own community in Peckham has structures for that as they know that is a problem in communities..as well as all the good stuff.


Ben to Effers

Post 107

Effers;England.


Earlier you mentioned a thread where people could make suggestions for noohootoo.

I really want to do that learning to be mediator thing. For all sorts of reasons I think I'd be excellent. I'd read up on it of course.

But if we attract people from a variety of different backgrounds and cultures there might be some problems in the future. In never be needed of course.

But at least something good would come out of this horrible thing that's happened.

Could you give me a link?


Ben to Effers

Post 108

Mrs Zen

My timing sucks, as always. smiley - sigh

Regarding mediators - I think it's a good idea, but one that should be worked up within the community. I think it should be a community thing for a whole bunch of reasons, the main two being impartiality and time. It's an idea that was mentioned way way back in the past, and I can see the value of it now. If people think it's a good idea and get moving with it, then it will have my support. But, as I said, I think it should be a community thing, to start with at least.

Secondly, I didn't see SoRB / Twiggster's post in the Women Drivers thread, but I saw the fallout. I said some time ago that bullying wasn't ok on this site, and it isn't. I keep on typing more on this subject and then deleting it, so I'm going to leave it at that for now.

I do hope your sleeping-in-the-garden project goes well.

Ben


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