h2g2 The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: Earth Edition

nevr let um win f ther bad chilrin mor imptant pepl n nevr hurtid no bdy so u do gud wif um giv gud plas 2 pla in it by by fum us lil lef sid kidz

Hi, you want to tell us what kind of computer? Allot of us are interestesd in them. Thanks you Abraham + Marisa we are 7

A friend makes them so its just put together - the smart term is 'custom-built'. Amd K7 1200 mhz main board, 256 mb ram 28gb hard drive, CD rewriter, TEAC multicompo super woofer system (that sounds like it might be a dog of some kind but I think 'woofer' means when you crank up the volume you go 'woof' at the sound quality ), 17" monitor. An optical mouse and an all singing and dancing keyboard. I love it. And cheap too by English standards though not by US ones . Oh and an excellent graphics card. Plus free servicing and cost price upgrades. Uh oh this might be a double posting ....

hi mr andy cood u mabe help us thers a problim n weer reely scard its in that royl w thred in r own paj n then its also heer http://www.bbc.co.uk/h2g2/guide/F52180?thread=124786 its sumby tryen to hurt us we need to run awa but the biguns sa we wont giv in to terorists only weer terorfyd can u help wifout it ben bad for u we panikt lots a lil kids thet sum pepl dont biliv exist cryen n cryen wy peple so oful its de bad big pepl al ovr agan n its not rit no it isn not evn a lil bit rit wy cant them trublmakrs mak it for sumby els we dint do nuthin its to hard ther tryn to scar us of heer n its worken to

Shhh... you need to calm down ..its alright........yes there are some people who seem to get angry at all of you.......but don't worry, your protectors are taking care of you. All of you are outside of the knowledge of many people on this site. They find you very scary. Yes even the littlest of the little ones they find very very scary and unusual and outside of what they know. SO what they try to do is :
1. Hit out and try and make you go away and leave them alone so they can feel comfortable again.

2. Because your existences are hard to believe they dont believe it and think you are 'showing off' for 'attention'and are making it all up. They are silly and wrong but not scary or dangerous not really.

3. Remember this is cyber space - its just pretend - like playing when you have an argument with your best friend and they won't be your friend anymore - its upsetting and horrible at the moment but really it isn't meant .

This bit is to all of you big and small: Forgive me if this sounds sexist but it is based on factual observation of working in a predominantly female environment for the last 12 years. Many women have a particular problem with some other women. Usually these clashes occur between strong personalities. Usually one person finds everything the other person does totally and utterly offensive, in fact finds their very existence offensive. You are the sort of personality that really really gets other women going - sometimes once they understand more about you they change their view of you totally - sometimes they dont want to understand more. In this situation men have a physical fight to establish superiority but women tend to use verbal attacks.

It seems to me the MOG is in rage mode at the moment - you really really have to try and rise above it. See now I always assume that everyone is saying bad things about me behind my back both here on h2g2 and in real life,so what? I try my best to be a good person and if its not good enough for someone else then thats their problem not mine. Yes I consider that the postings about you are against house rules in that they constitute a 'personal attack' so your best course would be to complain to Peta. Best of all wait for Peta to return, dont panic and take many deep breaths. You have made more friends than enemies in your short time on h2g2 but quite a few of those friends started out by disliking you for the reason posted above.

COmplain by all means- though personally as a passionate believer in freedom of speech I don't hold with it - but don't hit back, don't give anyone an excuse to complain themselves. I know its hard but you've been doing brilliantly so far.

No need to run away, no need to be upset, no need to 'fight back'.

thank u for riten bak we dint no if ud be heer or not but r bigs is skared of the peta lady cos of the finil warnen thing n the peta lady made it so the pertekers cant say nufin evn if we rit or sumby just been meen for no reson wy do pepl do dat they did it alwys n it fels just lik wen body ws smal we cant help rself acos we to litl we rely so fraids so fraids n cry n cry n we don hafta buliv in pepl dont biliv in us but them hurten r bigs

Hi Mr Andy,

I'm Penny. I'm 10. I don't remember whether we've spoken before - we're too dissociated to remember where we left our head.

The thing that is so terrifying for the little ones is that the adults are scared. The littles don't have a lot of details, but they do have a very strong feeling that something is very, very not safe.

You may be right about that MOG person being in 'rage mode'. If this is a regular thing, she needs professional intervention. If it's just a weirdie reaction to us... yeah, well we went to an all girls' school for 8 years, an all women's college for 4, and have sung in a women's choir for 14. Those were IRL and sure, there was friction, but there was never anybody who just plain set out to get us to screw up. Okay, once. But in all that time, yes, we and other strong personalities clashed, and then it settled down. We've never seen anyone go as totally off the rails as she seems to have done. Mathilde, my sister, who is not afraid of anything, is worried about the rest of us. Sara, who's never ever shed a tear in the 38 years she's existed, has been crying. Arpeggio, who is sensitive, bolted ages ago.

We're walking a tightrope with no net over some very hungry and mean-ass pirhanas. What if a wind comes up? We are honestly freaking.

Should we just go underground for a few days?

It's true that the adults don't really want to attract the attention of the Italics... bad track record there. Not a smart thing, to antagonise the PTB within 4 weeks.... Spilt milk, so no crying. We are not positive Peta wouldn't decide to blame us. We don't know the lady, and we don't know how she thinks. The adults did make a couple of minor (relatively) snide comments about MOG and the things she'd said. The terms of not having the account closed were not 'don't start anything'. They were 'don't so much as attract friction'. What are we supposed to do? There are no right answers.

Totally frustrated on behalf of all the kids and the protectors,

Penny, for LeKZ If you get any brilliant suggestions, we'll go for it. meanwhile the plan is 'do not engage'.

Thanks so much for helping the littles. The bawling has lessened to a dull chorus of sobs.

de babys bes skary dat to sily dey so smal don be heer

You are in a diffcult situation - but 'do nothing ' is a good response. I think Mog is not really being much more hostile than some of the others were a couple of weeks back - perhaps less subtle. Hopefully she will calm down and leave you alone.
I was glad personally to see the adults standing up to some of those fascistic ideas put in as 'humour'. I agree that such 'humour' is a poor disguise for predujice. I suspect there are many more people who agree with your line than you might think - hopefully they will come forward as well. I think you are in a very difficult position as regards responding to attack and you are right to be cautious....but please don't be scared.
Up until now I have found Peta to be brilliant at her job - she is incredibly tolerant and has to put up with a lot of different stuff. I would always recommend that you follow her advice and seek her advice if you are troubled. Point her to the specific thread where MOg is practically boasting about attacking you all and ask her if this is appropriate behaviour and how should you respond. Let her deal with it if she offers -she is good at that. Don't feel the italics are 'out to get you' - they are not.


As for the little ones - how about you tell me of some songs you know?

Hi Mr Andy, Im Pat the kids pertecker. Im woryd cos of I blew up at Niwt and she duzent understand evrything abowt us or maybe anything. See the littles put a post like they did here at a thred for Arkangel Galaxy Babe at http://www.bbc.co.uk/h2g2/guide/F43348?thread=122449 erly Sunday morning our time and today Niwt posted sumthing sorta not nice about the way they rite. It was just the worstest timing. She said 'Oh no not that horible riting again Arpeggio' cos of 1 time the littles tryed to talk to her and she coodent read it at all. Arpeggio tryed to susplane that theyre 2 year and 3 year olds and they rite as good as they can. The littles were so squished by her sayen that and I hafta let them no I stick up for them so I was probly ruder then Ive ever been in the bodys whole life and I dont feel even a litle okay about it. Arpeggio helped explane why I got so mad and rude Im normily respectful but not if biger peple pick on or make fun of litler ones thats not aloud at all. I wont let the littleses tryen to get help for themselfs be laft at and squished its just not rite. But I no shes 13 and thats a litle girl to a bigun but thats a big person to us and to the 3s and 2s shes a adult but then she hurted ther feelings reely badly. Do you no a way to help her understand so she dont make a mistake agen and if you do wood you mind it to much? We dont no if shed want to heer it frum us I gave you the thred so you can see how bad of rude I was I think I was just not polite and said wat was a problim but I was to upset by the litles being histerical all over again its been such a crummy 48 hours now. They cant feel safe if the biguns are panikt? Well now the litler ones and even me a bit are just plain scared to rite here unless we get a older kid that spels good to transcryb the words cos of we dont no wat sombody cood say and its bad enuf them bein abusive the biguns us kids just gota get out of here. But you can read the littleses riting and its only fonetik for godsakes how hard cood that be? The littles really like you alot and its cool for them haven a onlin big persin for a frend but they arent gona rite here when any passing stranger cood just laff at them. Im all confused but mostly I hope you can talk to Niwt cos of she just made a hurtful thing by axident and her timing was worser than anything. You dont laff at 2 years olds beggen for help that is so so upsetten to them all and me and the whole of all of us. This place was suposed to be gona be fun. It isnt its horible and unsafe scary with random drive by ridiculers to. Weer all hapy you agreed them fashists were rong. Corse they were rong any idjit can see that only fashists not just any idjit theyre a speshul worse kinda superidjit. So Im very woryed maybe if she can handel readen my riting wich is beter wen Im not cryen even if she just seen this she mite understand but I dont no. Youre real good at splaining things so kids can get it so if you dont mind to much? I dident say Im sory cos of Im not. I got 8000 kids under 6 that Im designatid spokeskid for them thats a lot of risponsibility and they gota no that I wont let nobody squish them. Im not sory I sed wat i did and Im not sory how I sed it we are real chilren with real feelings that she really hurted. I get to go help evrybody feel beter again some more. Im sory it ever hapend. And I no shes a kid from bigunses perspeckive wich meens a older persin shood probly talk to her and not us. Im repeting myself were sooo tyrd. Too much alredy. Now that woman has turned all sicky icky sweet and we cant stand liers no we can not lyers make us all balistick. Unbeleevable wat shes sayen now from yesterday does her head turn all the way around like a dolls? Us kids think shes realy not well in her mind but wat do we no we cant even spel. Bitter wich is not normil for me or any 4 year old Pat

Don't worry about Niwt. SHe doesn't really realise what she is saying and how much it hurts the little 'uns. I'm absolutely sure that if she did she wouldn't have done that. You have to understand that people simply cannot get their heads round all of you... You surely must've come across all this before.
Actually for the record I feel that Peta is being over-protective of a 13 year old who Peta considers mature enough to be given the title of ACE - yes there is no need for Niwt to post what she did, but didn't you do things at 13 you wouldn't do now? She'll get over it - Peta will get over it. You've made it quite clear who has been upset and how much - unfortunately I now tend to agree with your previous assertion that Peta is not well disposed towards you.

Well two things to be done - give up and go away - which would disappoint me greatly, or keep on trying really really hard to not respond to the provokers. I'm sure the more that you can restrain your replies, the more everyone will come to see that YOU are the one under attack. Every response you make however justified merely gives people more ammunition to have a go. Perhaps you could simply put: "Please don't post things like that, it really, really upsets all of us." That way it would be clear you don't like what is happening, without giving anyone any grounds for complaining against YOU. I know you find brevity difficult , but all that is happening is that positive things you have to say are being detracted from and distracted by the negative. 'Eliminate the negative and accentuate the positive.' I know thats a quote but I know not who from. If the next time you suffer an attack you simply ask them to stop then honestly this isn't a sign of weakness or 'giving in to terrorists' more a sign that you can't be bothered to waste your time and more importantly, emotional energy on them. YOu don't have to be upset by all this - try as much as possible to ignore them. If they get worse as a result it will be obvious that they are the provokers and I for one will 'yikes' them and continue to complain until everyone is sick of me complaining. People who like to irritate only do so because you give them such a reaction. Please don't give them the satisfaction. We need your voices here - all of you...

Hmm...
I gess that means a post by a upset 4 year old got moderated huh? Wow. And the things they let big peple do to each other around here...it makes no kindsa sense.

Well.

We are just unsubscribing all over the place but not this one and it is about us and our feelings and you and thats wat we talk about here.

I no the bigs are choked up mad about that. I went back and checked and I wasnt as rude as I thot and Arpeggio sed nobody blamed Niwt so wat the heck? The bigs are not gona say nothing to nobody but they are doing so bad and feeling so betrayd by sum peple that were suposedly suporten them and now this.

Wat can anyone do its just plain injustis.

Pat

Thanks for all your help and suport Mr Andy we shor need it now more then ever.

Yes I absolutely agree with you about it being an injustice, that's why I'm suggesting the course of action to take. Just say: We don't like it , please stop. The more you do that the more people will see the injustice of what is happening. I actually thought your response to Niwt was quite restrained and thorough. I'm not the only person to feel that you are being picked on somewhat, the more you hold back the more the injustice becomes clearer to all. You have made many friends here. Hang on in there, all of you!!

Please feel free to rant on here about some of the others if you need to let off steam- its obviously ok for MoG boast about winding you up without censure so it must be OK for you to let off steam.

Hi Androyd,

This is Arpeggio. If you see this and you get a chance, please have a look at my reply to Peta. I kept my temper and my tongue, and blocked the kids all the way up to the older teens.

What is missing from this picture for me is what anyone might think, given all we have said about mp, in various places, when a person announces 'Im Pat and Im 4', and proceeds to speak very firmly, for a four year old, but definitely as a four year old, and then there's a visible switch in name, age, writing style, vocabulary?

How does one not understand?

Total denial?

I'm flabbergasted. The concept may be new and different, but it is not SO unheard of, in 2001.

Arpeggio, with eyes like saucers... shaking head in total noncomprehension... for LeKZ (except the kids, whom I am still blocking.)

Peta I'm sure will take the line that Lekz has to take collective responsibility for the actions of individuals within Lekz. So she will not see it as a 4 year old responding to a 13 year old, and I'm not at all convinced that Niwt will see it that way either. I would imagine she thinks you are making it all up as that is far far easier to understand than the alternative.

Even if Peta does believe you and I really don't know about that, she would still in her capacity as moderator-in-chief have to warn Arpeggio for the actions of any of your other personalities as that's who you have signed on as. So they take the view that the Arpeggio personality is ultimately the one responsible. I don't know this for a fact but legally speaking I'm sure thats how they would define it. So Peta and Mark may personally recognise that there are different people speaking within LeKZ but professionally they can't allow that to change how they respond. Otherwise the rules would become meaningless as other people would claim to be mp's but just use that as an excuse to break the house rules and then say : it wasn't me it was an alternate personality. We know how unpleasant some others can be - do you really think they wouldn't do that?
Look the real issue is that I actually thought Niwt was the one out of order and actually you were restrained in your admonishment of her. But I'm not a community editor just an assistant. I expect that Galaxy Babe will speak with Niwt and sort her out and find out if she is upset. This intervention out of nowhere reminded me so much of what happened at the start of the Bienvenu...thread. I do find it rude when people just jump in with a snide remark and then wonder why you get upset with them.

I'm sad you are blocking the little ones but I'm sure you are doing it to keep them safe Send them a big from me.
Stay cool Arpeggio and all you guys and we will all get through these difficult early days.
Androyd

Is this record - 33 posts and no unwarranted outside intrusions?

Ya, its gota be sum kinda recurd.

Its me Pat agen. We think we did all the cant avoid its and gotta do its for now, so its sloly geting less tense but wow Arpeggio didnt no she had a temper cos of she never lost it befor it was in emale so its ok but she really blew up like we never imagind shes the sensitive music energy being and all of a sudden POW its Arpeggio the Terminator. Startled her alot.

Ya I see wer theyd hafta put it on Arpeggio ofishly oafishly sumbudy sed put that leter a in. Ok but do they no how much peple round here gots to or three or mor nams and acounts and go around pritending to be difernt peple to get atenshun to ther articl or to have a conversashun go sum particlar way its reely comon! Even just if they got a work acount and a home acount if they wantid they cood do that. Here we all are bein honist that were all one persin and mulitple at the same time and wer geting hamerd. So much peple evrywer cheet with screename changis and its easy Id no how.

We arnt gona talk about nobody else nuthin bad here they hadta throw away lots threds cos of they were LURKERS BAIT. I duno wy we hate the lurkers we cant stand it in persin even wen Davids outsid girl was 14 she was lurky and it droved us nuts shed just sorta stand there and wed wait for her to talk and she wooden then the bigs woud try sayn sumpin and shed mumble but she wooden go do sumpin else!

Teenajers are to yung to be teenajers. Its not fare. They cant deel with it so they get weerd.

Its privacy maybe or like we got a fobia of doornobs turnen quietly if it makes noise ok but that turnen nob is a big scary.

Im bein a chaterbox its been to days n to nites of nonstop stres and this is sposed to be fun? Whoda gesst?

I let you go bed alredy since its midnite 30 ther. Good nite frum alla us kids you reely saved the systim and als us kids sooo much thanks for caren and believen in us.

You gud persin. We are to.

By by love Pat

Ples tel us you arnt reely gon. We understand wy you left but us litles mis our frend Mr Andy a lot a lot and its no fun for us kids without you here. This is a bad thing that sum peple went and made mor wurse then it needid to be wish they dint do that it was rude ofensive and now it made you so mad you left. Well fooy. Thers alwys gonna be peple just dont care who gets hurt as long as they think they can end up looken good. They dont tho. Nuh-uh. Not to us. Probly not reely to anybody. Gess they gotta shoot the boy bifore he anounces that the Emperers got no close, other wise evrybodys uncomfy speshuly the Emperer. What can I say its life. Wish this wasnt by by love youlots and lots and please email us the gestbook email link is broke so please go to http://www.bbc.co.uk/h2g2/guide/U173889 and email us ok? Thank you love from all the kids to our frend Mr Andy and the Biguns to. Pat and other litles of LeKZ

NOTE: THIS IS A PRIVAT CONVERSASHUN SO IF YORE NOT MR ANDY PLESE DONT COMENT OR SAY NUTHING WE REALY APRECIATE YOR COOPERASHUN.