A Conversation for United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland - Some history and definitions

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Post 41

HappyDude

Angelesy? do you mean Alderney?


A1912213 - United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland

Post 42

HappyDude

Er... sorry about this but I think we Have not cover UK Sovereign Base Areassmiley - spacesmiley - erm

These are British military base areas located in countries that were once part of the British Empire but which were retained by the UK and not handed over when those countries attained independence.

There were some in Eire between 1922 & 1938 and currently there are two in in Cyprus (Akrotiri and Dhekelia). These are not part of the UK but are a UK overseas territory with an Administrator appointed by the Crown who reports to the MOD.

some info on the EU angle (because of Cyprus joining the EU soon)
http://216.239.59.104/search?q=cache:Qzk85NY7r5wJ:www.parliament.the-stationery-office.co.uk/pa/ld199900/ldhansrd/pdvn/lds03/text/30114-01.htm+UK+sovereign+bases&hl=en&ie=UTF-8



A1912213 - United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland

Post 43

HappyDude

is there any chance of getting the word "Elucidation" into the title, it's such a smiley - cool wordsmiley - spacesmiley - smiley


A1912213 - United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland

Post 44

HappyDude

ya might want to add the following to the referances section Alderney Guernsey Jersey Isle of Man Anguilla Bermuda British Antarctic Territory British Indian Ocean Territory British Virgin Islands Cayman Islands Falkland Islands Gibraltar Montserrat Pitcairn South Georgia St Helena Turks and Caicos Islands UK Online


A1912213 - United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland

Post 45

HappyDude

From British Overseas Territories Act 2002

"including the decision that they should be known as 'overseas territories' in place of outdated terms such as 'dependent territories' or 'colonies'"

"Under section 5 of the 1981 Act BDTC from Gibraltar are, upon application, entitled to be registered as British citizens. The British Nationality (Falkland Islands) Act 1983 granted British citizenship to BDTC from the Falkland Islands. Accordingly many BDTC from Gibraltar and the Falklands also possess British citizenship, and as British citizens they have the right of abode in the United Kingdom. Without disturbing these arrangements, the White Paper determined that British citizenship, and with it the right of abode, should be granted to BDTC of most other territories. In accordance with the White Paper, the Act excludes BDTC connected with the Sovereign Base Areas in Cyprus, because of the special position of this territory as a military base."


A1912213 - United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland

Post 46

Zarquon's Singing Fish!


Oh, it was Stanley Holloway, HappyDude! I thought of him at first, before deciding it was Jack Warner! Will go check the link. Thanks. smiley - smiley

smiley - fishsmiley - musicalnote


A1912213 - United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland

Post 47

Gnomon - time to move on

Here are some nitpicks.

Change all "double quotes" to 'single quotes'.

confused about? --> confused about.
problem, really is --> problem, really, is
However it is defined there are --> However it is defined, there are
England, instead --> England; instead
and has no separate legal or other system like Scotland. --> and, unlike Scotland, has no separate legal or other system.
referenda --> referendums
republic of Ireland --> Republic of Ireland
Crowns authority --> Crown's authority
self-governing, they are --> self-governing; they are
with respect the administration --> with respect to the administration
Irish Republic --> Republic of Ireland


A1912213 - United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland

Post 48

C Hawke

HappyDude - thanks for the links, all but the FCO one added, GuideML parser didn't like that one.

So Should the DEpendent Territorie section be renamed Overseas territories?

Nitpick away - I will get round to the changes asap smiley - biggrin

CHawke


A1912213 - United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland

Post 49

C Hawke

"referenda --> referendums"

mmm Radio 4 use both words - is there a house decsion on this one?

Chawke


A1912213 - United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland

Post 50

Researcher PSG

Hello

Sorry if you have noticed my earlier posting about mentioning the union jack:
http://www.royal.gov.uk/output/page398.asp

As it is a combination of flags of saints from England, Ireland, and Scotland.

Researcher PSG


A1912213 - United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland

Post 51

HappyDude

yep, wot were 'British Dependent Territories' are now 'British Overseas Territories'


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Post 52

C Hawke

I did notice it - but I think that may well be worth an entry of its own - this one is long enough as it is.

All fasinating stuff smiley - biggrin

CHawke


A1912213 - United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland

Post 53

HappyDude

just checking ya got to see the bit about 'UK Sovereign Base Areas' in the b'log?


A1912213 - United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland

Post 54

Eusebio - squad number 11

"Jersey-Angelesy: I seem to remember that certain of the Crown Dependencies don't have administration for all of the things one would expect a sovereign nation to have, in particular, the Bureau D'Etranger from Jersey also operates on Angelesy. Was I wrong?"

Yes. Anglesey (or Ynys Môn) is the island county off the north west coast of Wales.


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Post 55

HappyDude

sorry about this, I miss type the url for the British Antarctic Territory

it should be http://www.antarctica.ac.uk/About_Antarctica/British_Antarctic_Territory/


A1912213 - United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland

Post 56

C Hawke

saw the bases thing - not sure about inclusion are they considered in the same way as all countries embassies are? In which case does including add anything that people may be confused about? Then do you add those parts of the UK that have foreign bases on them (do the US have any air bases left in the UK? or were these different)

Dunno in short smiley - smiley

CHawke


A1912213 - United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland

Post 57

HappyDude

there differnt 'cos they are UK Overseas Territory, not leased or rented, we are not guests, when you enter a Sovereign Base you are leaving one nation & entering another.


A1912213 - United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland

Post 58

HappyDude

"do the US have any air bases in the UK"

The US never had any air bases in UK, however it did (& still does) have the use of a number of RAF bases in the UK.


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Post 59

C Hawke

I remembered that as soon as I'd posted - having been brought up near several as well as on UK bases I should never have forgoten smiley - blush

CHawke


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Post 60

HappyDude

I thought that the Bureau des Estrangers was a part of the Jersey police force that was made up for the Bergerac TV seriessmiley - spacesmiley - huh


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