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Post 41

Boxing Baboon 2

its like hi de hi is jail .chat soon intren mate


Anti-social neighbours

Post 42

Pimms

Intern and b.baboon some would regard your grammar and spelling as a crime smiley - winkeye

Do you really want more visible policing? A week or so ago it was in the news that increasing policing somewhere near York had *increased* the amount of crime being recorded, and the fear of crime.

More importantly you are directing your enmity at the wrong target. Law enforcement is more than the police - it is also the judiciary.

Your complaints should really be that the courts don't prosecute appropriately - this is *not* the fault of the police who get extremely frustrated at the ineffectual sentences frequently handed out after the effort the police have gone to to get offenders into court. In my opinion the police try to do their best despite misguided blame being laid on them for failures of the courts.

Pimms smiley - mistletoe


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Post 43

Blues Shark - For people who like this sort of thing, then this is just the sort of thing they'll like


And recent experiments carried out on an informal basis show that members of the public, given *THE FULL FACTS* of cases, and of the circumstances surrounding them, agree with the Judiciary on sentencing in a high percentage of cases.

The Criminal Justice System isn't perfect in this country, but for the time being unless anyone has any SENSIBLE sugestions as to how to improve it, then I'd suggest Two Cheers for it rather than talking nonsense about it.

smiley - shark


Anti-social neighbours

Post 44

Boxing Baboon 2

no your both wrong .they should be locked up for life when they murder and not 5 years.+pips my grammer and spelling is fine thanks.


Anti-social neighbours

Post 45

Blues Shark - For people who like this sort of thing, then this is just the sort of thing they'll like


No, your grammar and spelling aren't fine, and as to whether we are wrong or not as to the matter of Crime and Punishment is purely a matter of opinion.

smiley - shark


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Post 46

Boxing Baboon 2

yeah its fine. are you a scummy crim? well you seem to be on their side smiley - grr


Anti-social neighbours

Post 47

Blues Shark - For people who like this sort of thing, then this is just the sort of thing they'll like


smiley - erm What part of 'I've worked with the Police for 15 years' would lead you to believe I'm a 'scummy crim' (as opposed to a 'non-scummy crim' like a battered wife who fights back and stabs her abusive husband, or indeed like Tony martin, in your book).

And it should beah 'Yeah (capital at the start of a sentence)it's (apostrophe for the use of a contraction)fine.' smiley - smiley

smiley - shark


Anti-social neighbours

Post 48

Boxing Baboon 2

Yeah as ive said its smiley - ok women who fight back against thier abusive partner do right .should stab the smiley - bleep to death.And what should she get a prison term?. Nope should be a medal.


Anti-social neighbours

Post 49

Blues Shark - For people who like this sort of thing, then this is just the sort of thing they'll like


Well, you're the one proposing a blanket 'Life term' for murder, not me. Therefore such women, under your system, wouldn't be able to rely on the discretion of the Judge.smiley - shrug

smiley - shark


Anti-social neighbours

Post 50

Boxing Baboon 2

If its proved .Her life was made a misery by her partner .Then they should'nt even be a trial.


Anti-social neighbours

Post 51

Blues Shark - For people who like this sort of thing, then this is just the sort of thing they'll like


Kind of the point really, about the trial, to prove whether or not that sort of thing did go on.

And regardless of whether it did or not, the defendant isd still guilty of a crime, whether it's murder or manslaughter due to provocation. There still has to be a sentence.

Still, thats ok, it's like going on Hi De Hi, this jail lark, so she'll be ok.

smiley - shark


Anti-social neighbours

Post 52

Pimms

... and the woman who murders her husband and *says* he was abusive?

Is there no place for evidence and attempts at consistent justice in your anarchy BB?

I'm glad you're not in charge


Anti-social neighbours

Post 53

Boxing Baboon 2

pimms .I dont agree with women beaters.I just wish i was in charge.It would a far better world to live in.


Anti-social neighbours

Post 54

Pimms

I beg to disagree. Your approach to law and order is too simplistic, and would lead to far greater abuses than it is attempting to prevent.


Anti-social neighbours

Post 55

Blues Shark - For people who like this sort of thing, then this is just the sort of thing they'll like


I don't agree with women beaters that are *proven* to be women beaters.

I fail to see how either of mine or Pimms' world view is more simple than 'Life for all murderers and anybody who might have done something in self defence or for anything other reason that I like won't have to prove it.'

smiley - shark


Anti-social neighbours

Post 56

Boxing Baboon 2

You can tell if some1 is being abused by the smiley - bruised on them smiley - grr + the mental torture they have endured smiley - yuk


Anti-social neighbours

Post 57

Blues Shark - For people who like this sort of thing, then this is just the sort of thing they'll like


Hmm, so no possibility that someone other than their partner or the accused did it, or in one case I dealt with the aggrieved attended and admitted that she had beaten up by a gang of girls and had used it as an excuse to try and get out of a relationship she wasn't happy in?

smiley - shark


Anti-social neighbours

Post 58

Boxing Baboon 2

well ofcorse you get the odd case.where theres alot of lying goes on .But that why every 1 should be given a truth drug.You agree shark?


Anti-social neighbours

Post 59

Blues Shark - For people who like this sort of thing, then this is just the sort of thing they'll like


No. One of the more senior researchers on this site has on their page (had on their page?) that they dreaded living in a society where no crime could go undetected.

I'm inclined to agree with that.

smiley - shark


Anti-social neighbours

Post 60

Boxing Baboon 2

well there as always been crime always since the early days of man.
and i dread the future .dread to think what this counrty will be like in 20 years


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