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Puzzle 8 - Four Fours
Icy North Posted Aug 4, 2006
It means "raised to the power of". It's pretty standard in programming languages, Excel formulas, etc.
This was the hardest one to spot so far. I think we'll soon need more mathematical functions. We could use arctan(4º) = 45, I suppose. That should help us.
((4²-4º) * 4²) + 4 = 244
Puzzle 8 - Four Fours
aka Bel - A87832164 Posted Aug 4, 2006
Sorry to be so daft, but I have no idea what 'raise to the power of' means, and I can't follow how you get to your 243
Puzzle 8 - Four Fours
Icy North Posted Aug 4, 2006
And if we're allowing arctan(4º) = 45, we would also allow arcsin(4º) = 90 and arccos(4º) = 0, although the last one isn't very useful.
Puzzle 8 - Four Fours
Icy North Posted Aug 4, 2006
OK, does this help?
To explain (4-4º)^(4+4º) = 243 ...
(4-4º) = 3
(4+4º) = 5
3^5 = 3 raised to the power of 5
= 3 x 3 x 3 x 3 x 3
= 243
Puzzle 8 - Four Fours
aka Bel - A87832164 Posted Aug 4, 2006
Oh yes, thanks , it's like the 4³ then, just with larger numbers than 3. Didn't you limit this to ³ earlier ?
Puzzle 8 - Four Fours
Icy North Posted Aug 4, 2006
I did limit it to three for a couple of reasons:
1) "squared" and "cubed" are common functions
2) We have no ascii character for superscript numbers higher than three.
If you want higher numbers, then you'll have to make them using your four fours.
Puzzle 8 - Four Fours
Icy North Posted Aug 4, 2006
And when we need it later, arccos(-4º) = 180.
When I get a moment, I'll formally define the domains for these functions, in case there are any mathematical pedants watching.
Puzzle 8 - Four Fours
aka Bel - A87832164 Posted Aug 4, 2006
I'll cut and paste and save all these functions in one place, then I'll not have to go back to several pages to look for them.
Puzzle 8 - Four Fours
Icy North Posted Aug 4, 2006
Here's a few things you can do with a single 4:
4° = 1
4² = 16
4³ = 64
SQRT(4) = 2
SQRT(4³) = 8
(4²)² = 256
4! = 24
arctan(4°) = 45
arcsin(4°) = 90
arccos(-(4°)) = 180
Puzzle 8 - Four Fours
aka Bel - A87832164 Posted Aug 4, 2006
Thanks, I've saved all the functions which were unknown to me ( i.e. everything except the squared, cubed,raised to the power of and squareroot ones. We don't differentiate between cubed and squared and 'raised to the power of', we just say 'hoch' - and then put the number we want/need, e.g. 4 hoch 2 =4x4= 16; 4 hoch 3 =4x4x4=64; 4 hoch 5 = 4x4x4x4x4=1024 and so on. )
Puzzle 8 - Four Fours
aka Bel - A87832164 Posted Aug 4, 2006
Not really sure which one is right ( first you said arccos(-4°), then you said arcos (-(4°)), I'll go with the first version ( it's 'shorter')
arccos(-4°)+4³+4°x4°=245
arccos(-4°)+4³+4°+4°=246
arccos(-4°)+4³+SQRT(4)+4°=247
arccos(-4°)+4³+SQRT(4)+SQRT(4)=248 ( alternatively: arccos(-4°)+4³+4x4°=248 )
arccos(-4°)+4³+4+4°=249
arccos(-4°)+4³+4+SQRT(4)=250
Puzzle 8 - Four Fours
Icy North Posted Aug 7, 2006
(4²)²-4-4/4=251
(4²)²-4+4-4=252
(4²)²-4+4/4=253
(4²)²-SQRT(4)+4-4=254
(4²)²-4°+4-4=255
(4²)²*444°=256
(4²)²+4°+4-4=257
(4²)²+SQRT(4)+4-4=258
(4²)²+4-4/4=259
(4²)²+4-4+4=260
(4²)²+4+4/4=261
p.s. I prefer arccos(-(4°)) as it's not ambiguous.
(-4)°=1 whereas -(4°)=-1
Puzzle 8 - Four Fours
aka Bel - A87832164 Posted Aug 7, 2006
(4²)²+4+4°+4°=262
(4²)²+4+4-4°=263
(4²)²+4+4/4°=264
(4²)²+4xSQRT(4)+4°=265
(4²)²+4+4+SQRT(4)=266
Puzzle 8 - Four Fours
Icy North Posted Aug 8, 2006
(4²)²+SQRT(4³)+4-4°=267
(4²)²+4+4+4=268
(4²)²+SQRT(4³)+4+4°=269
(4²)²+SQRT(4³)+4+SQRT(4)=270
(4²)²+4²-4/4=271
(4²)²+4²+4-4=272
(4²)²+4²+4/4=273
Puzzle 8 - Four Fours
Icy North Posted Aug 22, 2006
(4²)²+4²+4-SQRT(4)=274
(4²)²+4²+4-4°=275
(4²)²+4²+4*4°=276
(4²)²+4²+4+4°=277
(4²)²+4²+4+SQRT(4)=278
(4²)²+4²+SQRT(4³)-4°=279
(4²)²+4²+4+4=280
(4²)²+4²+SQRT(4³)+4°=281
(4²)²+4²+SQRT(4³)+SQRT(4)=282
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