h2g2 The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: Earth Edition

In society at large, and in the wretched media, we hear the phrase 'human rights' often mentioned. But why?


"The Earth is the Lord's and fulness thereof, the world and they that dwell therein. For He hath founded it upon the seas and established it upon the floods."

With the invention of the myth of 'evolution' and the wicked religion of 'science' on the back of it, people think that if some poor blind soul in a white coat says something is true it is. But they never think that what God says might be true. Those who live in darkness believe the others who live in darkness. And mere men believe other mere men, above Almighty God.

It is all part of the 'denial gambit' which they employ to deal with the conciousness of God and get some relief from shame, disgrace, and fear that would naturally follow their commission of sin against God. Much the same as my little brother, when I was a child, who turned to me one day, clapped his hands over his eyes, and said, "You can't see me!" They think that if they can only deny God enough He will not exist. Very childish and very stupid! But downright and conciously wicked too.

Having 'disposed with' the Maker, Owner, and Sustainer of Heaven and Earth,they think that now they should have 'rights', and be gods themselves, dictating what is right and what is not. They look upon themselves as mere animals, higher ones, but animals nevertheless, and they behave like it too. They engage in empty whoring/fornicating/sodomy/and worse like animals. They treat others badly. And they exalt wretched blind 'scientists' to the place of God for being so clever as to invent the means by which they were delivered from feeling bad about their wickedness. They grasp this new religion of 'science' and its main tenet 'evolution', and all is well! So they think. Only to find out a moment after death that they have not succeeded, as God is not a mere intellectual position to be disposed of at their will.

But ALL RIGHTS BELONG TO GOD!

He made and owns this world, and the moment He is finished with it He is going to burn it; a sort of 'global warming' on steroids.

NO HUMAN BEING HAS RIGHTS, only responsibilities. 'Human rights' is an antichrist and wicked denial of God. All human beings have to realise that they must repent and turn to Christ before it is too late.

az

Because 'human rights' are an aspiration; a statement of the minimum level of respect and material succour that a person should be able to expect from other persons. Do you have a problem with that, other than that there are too many parts of the world where these rights are still an aspiration only, and not an actuality?



There is a sense in which this is true, in as much as the two are opposite sides of the same coin, and insufficient stress on, and acceptance of, our mutual reponsibilities is a principle cause of the lack of human rights.

<'Human rights' is an antichrist and wicked denial of God.>

How so? Does God not want us to treat our fellow humans humanely? You may say that it *could* only happen if we were all true Christians, but that's a separate argument to whether we *should* try and make it happen.





What has science got to do with it? People have been finding excuses for behaving less well than they should since long before science came on the scene. And even today such excuses are most unlikely to be based on any sort of science.

Noggin

Wow, that was random.

Ste

yeah, for a change . . .


az

*waits for my previous post to be moderated*


How are you doing az, Nog?

Ste

Very well, thanks, Ste. Now a gentleman of leisure

How's yourself?

Noggin

hi Ste,

Noggin and I are just having some and

Want some?

az

I've got some too. Want one?

Hi Justin,

You have the right to practice your religion free of the fear of persecution or discrimination. Be glad, there are countries that would at the very least expel you for even admitting you were christian.

There again as a born again puritan I would expect you to have no regard at all for the human rights of others. You have openly admitted that if your type of christian was in power all adulterers, abortionists, homosexuals, feminists and pagans would have to repent or die. Powerful stuff from a man who claims only his God can judge us.

So much for love thy neighbour as thyself!

Anyway I digress. Let's look at who is responsible for this obsession with documenting and publishing a statement of rights. Hmmm...oh yes, Moses. In Exodus and Leviticus it is made plain what God expected His people to do in relation to God Himself and to others.

People were expected not to kill each other, nor steal from one another, to respect their parents, nor to envy their neighbours goods and chattels. Starts to sound very familiar doesn't it?

The blame for these charters lie with the very puritans you admire so much, and the Victorian christians who followed them and who wove the word of their God into the very laws they enacted.

Once again your pitiful understanmding of the MEANING of scripture over the mere word is plain for all to see.

Never mind, better luck next rant.

Blessings,
Matholwch /|\.

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Some Math?


az

Already into the second bottle of good burgundy Az

Justin

The scientific method was formalised by Francis Bacon in the late 16th or early 17th century, whereas the theory of evolution was proposed at the end of the 19th century. Not the other way around, as your post suggests.

As for the general process of enquiry, that goes back much further. Da Vinci was perhaps the greatest example of his age, with Archimedes further back in time. Galileo, Copernicus, Watt, Newton, the list is endless.

It is a natural part of human existence to examine and question our surroundings. It seems the natural role of fundamentalism, of any stripe, is to resort to dogma.

Why is this?

Do you believe the world is flat, or perhaps the centre of the known universe? Both propositions have held sway in the past, maybe in the enlightened age that you constantly claim has passed away.

As for your little brother, can you not understand that perhaps he was right? Do you still not see him as he really is (or anyone else for that matter)? Or are you so hemmed in by your inability to perceive the world in which we all live to see anything outside of your own imagination?

The scientists you condemn are no less or more antagonistic to the idea of a god than anyone else. There are scientists who marvel in their discoveries as proof of the divine and who worship the same god that you do, just as there are scientists who find their work constantly demonstrates that the universe is marvellous enough without resorting to unproven explanations for its existence.

The very word, science, is often misused by the ignorant, such as yourself, Justin. Science is a mental tool, an abstract process and not a thing. Science is, of itself, neither good nor bad. Morality means nothing to science. It is how the knowledge gained through the process is applied by people that results in benefit or harm.

Knowledge of evolutionary processes even now benefits the world through the development of medical treatments, computers, advanced materials, food production, etc. It also harms the world through the development of the same.

I find it ironic that the tools that you use to contribute to this forum, the computer and the internet, are the result of the application of centuries of knowledge garnered through scientific investigation in so many fields. Nuclear physics, electromagetics, materials science, radio, evolution, ergonomics, anthropometry, organic chemistry, geology, etc. Do you actually understand this?

Evolution is not the main tenet of science, it is a theory that seeks to explain certain naturally ocurring processes. It does so very well within the limits of its application. However, it does not rule out the possibility of the existence of god. It cannot. If you think it does, then it just shows that you don't understand the theory.

And as for your verdict on what awaits the other side of death's door, you are no better placed to advise us than anyone else. In some regards you are less well equipped, after all doesn't your god prohibit attempts to talk with the dead? So you have nothing on which to base your pronouncements other than centuries old scribblings, based on the experiences of people no better informed than you.

Madent

Nice job, Madent.

I'd just like to add one thing: Science is not about searching for absolute truth. It is about explaining the world around us in such a way that we can predict what will happen in the future and create devices or methods to improve that future. There's nothing wrong with that. Much of religion is more interested in finding the absolute truth, and there's nothing wrong with that, either. It's just that they are two different methods for two very different goals, and neither can prove or disprove the other.

How odd that Justin hasn't replied!!!


az

When Justin talks about the lack of human rights, he's only talking about other humans. He still has all his rights, because he is him, and the only one deserving of them.

Blatherskite,

When Justin talks about most *anything* he is only talking about other humans. Unless of course he talks about having been saved by God - then it's just him-him-him.

He says he literally believes that Jesus said he cannot be a friend of God and a friend of this world. *That* explains a lot . . .

az

Justin,

actualy the Human Rights you are talking make posible for you to post your religious thoughts. if you lived in country where Human Rights were surpressed you would be in prision without a trial or even shot.

you should count you blessing that Human Right excist.

Justin,
you are digging in deeper soon you will have no way out, but realise that you need help from professional.

pheloxi,

Perhaps the reason Justin is here is because he *knows* he needs help but doesn't know how to ask for it.

Well, MAYBE!

Stranger things have happened.

az

I think that will happen when Easter and Ascension day will fall on one day!