h2g2 The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: Earth Edition

Terroism works. In recent years we have see Roman Catholic terrorism in N.Ireland result in terrorists in the Government of that province. When terrorists strike in the US, and kill thousands, the US President declares Islam a 'peaceful religion', even though he knows that the founder of the Muslim religion, Muhammed, was a warlord who took huge tracts of land by force of arms, doing unspeakable things in the process. And Muhammed's followers are, naturally, just the same.

Are we now going to see a Muslim Britain, where all the population have to attend the mosque, and women cover up. Where the whole population is forced to obey rules and regulations? Maybe we are.

One of the curses of God on a people who turn away from Him is that they lose their freedoms, and their enemies consume their land.

We are seeing more and more laws fobidding the indigenous population from speaking against pagan Islam, and the moon god 'Allah'. (others too of course). But it is illegal for decent Christian people to even possess a Bible in Muslim countries.

We are seeing Muslim 'honour killings' going on in this country, and no one dare speak against it. (Remember, no rights are given to Christians in any Muslim country, they are heavily persecuted).

Is Almighty God, who is sick of the lies like 'evolution', the whoring, fornicating, sodomy, feminism, paedophilia, lying, etc.

Our land is also being consumed; we fought two World Wars to prevent this land from being run by Europeans, and now they are taking it by stealth; regulation by regulation.

Many would think it good that decent Christian values be thrown away and replaced with evil, so that they do not have to feel bad about their sin. But the trouble is that the price is slavery to wicked pagan religions, and foreign powers.

Instigating arguments between brothers is a sin Justin

"But it is illegal for decent Christian people to even possess a Bible in Muslim countries."
Do you think it would be better if we copied those who do not allow freedoms of thought and speech?
Do you think it will make for a more peaceful world if we copy the behaviour of those who ban the bible by banning other texts?
As far As I can see you get away with blue murder in the name of free speech

I'm certain that if any other religion came here and used the words that you select to use in your arguments their posts would be pulled.
It's not about freedom of speech , but the responsibilty with which you use the precious gift that is important.
I feel you abuse the gift and would take it away from others.

Moth,

I see.

J.

Well said, Moth

Noggin

"Terroism works."

I agree.

"Roman Catholic terrorism in N.Ireland result in terrorists in the Government of that province."

I agree.

"the US President declares Islam a 'peaceful religion', even though he knows that the founder of the Muslim religion...."

I doubt he could spell "Muslim" without help, so I don't think you should take any note of what he says. Judge him by his actions.

Continued and escalating terrorist activity in Iraq has led to a U-turn in US policy there. They're all for leaving as soon as possible. As you say - terrorism works.

It works for Christians too. Christian terrorists have been murdering doctors in the United States.

"Are we now going to see a Muslim Britain?"

It is surely inevitable, is it not, given that in the last year alone half the Christians in this country have died.

Are you perhaps implying that they were killed by Muslims? I think perhaps you are.

"We are seeing Muslim 'honour killings' going on in this country, and no one dare speak against it."

Except Muslim leaders, politicians, the media, the police, the crown prosecution service and the courts.

"(Remember, no rights are given to Christians in any Muslim country, they are heavily persecuted)."

Emile Lahoud, Maronite Christian and President of Lebanon might be surprised to hear that.

"Is Almighty God, who is sick of the lies like 'evolution', the whoring, fornicating, sodomy, feminism, paedophilia, lying, etc."

Is this a question?

And if God is sick of lying... you must be telling the truth about the Christian holocaust.

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How did 300,000 Christians in Britain die in just the last few months, and why are you apparently the only person who knows about it?

"Our land is also being consumed; we fought two World Wars"

Who is this "we"? You were not even born when the last war ended. You have never served your country. Do not sully the memories of those who have and continue to do so by presuming to associate yourself with them, please.

Well Christianity and Islam, and indeed Judaism have very strong traditions of violence, and many followers of these religions believe very strongly in tradition.

Islam is certainly not pagan, I think the people who are pagan might have a thing or two to say about that.

Islam is certainly not going to take over Britain, I expect the people you call "nominals", and Jewish people, and real pagans, and agnostics, and atheists, and nationalists would all have problems with that. Muslism make up too small a proportion of the population to Islamify the country even if they wanted to, and maybe some Muslims appreciate free speech too.

Terrorism works? Well sort of, but sometimes your victims get all terroristy back...

Bouncy,

I see your point. However, people rally to a strong leader in times they perceive to be bad.

No Christian is remotely concerned about 'tradition', and they certainly do not have a tradition of violence! But I concede that the pseudo-Christians do. Jesus said, "Love your enemies." And you cannot possibly be walking with Jesus; be His disciple, a Christ-ian, if you don't do what He says,can you?

"Can two walk together, except they be agreed"

"Can two walk together, except they be agreed"

Two can indeed walk together if they *agree* to disagree. Jesus was aware of this and said 'love thy enemies' and presumably meant it.

Moth,

Of course He meant it! But it is not a legal commandment in quite the way you probably think it is . All Christians are filled with the Holy Spirit of God, and that Spirit always leads them in line with the Word of God. So, those who do not DO what the Lord says, (they can make slips and mistakes as they are learning to walk with Him), are not His disciples, plainly. You cannot stay with Him who is THE TRUTH and walk contrary to Him.

You cannot walk with Jesus and agree to disagree with Him. The old fashioned saying is 'if He is not Lord of all, He will not be Lord at all'. In other words, He comes as someone's absolute Lord and master or He will not be their saviour either.

Terroism works. In recent years we have see Roman Catholic terrorism in N.Ireland result in terrorists in the Government of that province.

Justin , Justin.

All the good folk of Northern Ireland, Eire and the UK want to do is to go about without being shot at.

If it is a devovled assembly that can do that then good.

Perhaps we should turn our attentions to so called protestant terror groups who are little more than gun runners, drugs pushers and theives.

I dont see a single protestant gun put out of commision and yet your man Paisley would wreck any chance of a peaceful likfe for the people of the province.

It this is christianity.............

Mark, Mark,

I am sure they do. I know people who live there.

My point was that terrorism has resulted in the terrorists being rewarded for their deeds. From that I was suggesting that perhaps Christians could engage in terrorism, and destroy kill and maim, like the Catholics, and 'Protestants', whatever they are. Perhaps then we will be given rights over the sodomites, feminists, and pagan religions, who are all demanding rights over us. You will know that when Islam arrived in New York on the 11th September President Bush stated that Islam was a peaceful religion, and started dialogue with them, as to how they could more accomodate them. My point was a bit tongue in cheek.

Ian Paisley is nothing to do with me. I don't know him, or follow him. Much of what he says is quite right, but how he says it is not. No real Christian would engage in the squalor of politics as he has done, as they know it leads to the diminution of their Christian life. He will answer to Christ on Judgement Day, just like you and me. If He is a saved man he will receive his reward, good or bad, according to what he has done. If he is not a saved man when he arrives before Christ, then he will be cast into the lake of fire witht the popes, priests, and bishops, etc., anyway. I would not worry about him, or about what he is doing. He cannot do more than God allows anyway.

Justin
I took your quote in the context of the conversation.
I think it equally applies.

Get real Justin.

You seem to take little note of what peole are really like and have even less idea of what is going on in the world.

Many muslims I know are as peaceful and some a darn sight more peaceloving than you or I, Justin.

How many marginalised groups women, muslims, catholics, homosexuals... who want help to overcome their unfair treatment and to establish equal rights are you going to lump together? Fact is this country is set up in favour of rich, white, straight, men who call them selves CofE. Do not be surprised if people who dont enjoy the same advantages that you take for granted get a little or very angry when they are not extended the same freedoms.

Do not worry about a muslim britain, although islam may look like an irressitable force to you that will over-run this goddless country it will never remove the immovable object that is the "full english" (black pudding, bacon and sausges).

Immovable arterial blockage more like.

"One of the curses of God on a people who turn away from Him is that they lose their freedoms, and their enemies consume their land."

But people have no freedom--only God has freedom and rights. I thought we already went over this.