h2g2 The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: Earth Edition

It is not a surprise to everyone that one day they are going to die. Perhaps the young and stupid may not give it a moment's thought, but one can understand that; they will grow up in time.

However, most people are old enough to have been to a funeral, and most understand that they too are going to die. Everyone knows that there is something after that, and they all know that there is a God, in their gut. Many have developed stategies to avoid facing that face, and to remove God from their concience.

Wicked 'scientists' have developed the 'theory of evolution' to remove God as far away as possible, so that they can be their own gods, and set their own standard. It is nothing to do with truth, of course, and not one wicked scientist who has died believes in evolution, as they are now in Hell, and have realised their their 'scientific' denial did not remove the facts.

These poor, wretched, idiotic, souls have all met the absolute TRUTH, which they had hoped to avoid by their stategy of denial, debate, dispute, etc. Like the man who refused to believe in gravity, and cast himself off a high building, shouting to all who would listen that there is no such thing as gravity, and he was fine, and demonstrably so, these dead scientists have all had their meeting with the 'pavement'. There is no escape, for anyone.

In society today we see politicians, and media folks, desperately trying to the put the Satanic and wicked on a par with the only true faith, as if, by doing so, they can expunge the inevitable, and will not have to join the wicked in Hell. They will do anyting BUT repent. They will hang on to their wicked religion,and being their own god, as long as they possibly can, even though they know that they cannot do it forever. They are very bold in their wickedness these days too.......until they are looking death in the teeth. They are not so bold then, and it is usually too late by that time. A moment after death they all dearly wish that they had not been so stupid, and had listened to those whom they considered idiots, and 'fundamentalists'......

All human beings KNOW that there is a God. Though most will not acknowledge Him, and submit to His lordship, as they wickedly want to be their own gods. That is the root of all sin.

Even though they know this, and those whom are the Lord's servants preach the truth to them, they will fight like tigers not to listen and obey. This was once, nominally, a Christian country, and about 20% of the British were REAL Christians. But now it is honestly demonic, and only about 0.5% are the Lord's.

It seems that this is the great falling away that Jesus said would happen just before He comes again to sort it all out.

Imagine the sheer terror of those who are alive when, having spent their whole time denying, and defying God, and rejecting Him, suddenly He appears.

"And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places. And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?"Rev.6:14-17

While this is a logical deduction from your other beliefs, Justin, it does have one absolutely fatal flaw. It isn't true. Which means that the premises of the deduction (your other beliefs), must be flawed too. Hardly bears thinking about, does it? Still, I'm sure you *won't* think about it, so no worries, eh?



Why the scare quotes Justin? What does a real scientist believe in?
Is the theory of evolution not really a theory of evolution at all?

Claiming to have knowledge is *not* the same thing as having knowledge, Justin. Having knowledge relies on having evidence and reason. "Just knowing" stuff doesn't count as knowing. How do you know that the stuff you "just know" is right? "I just know it is".

Noggin (not expecting the courtesy of reply, even if it's only *** off, Noggin)

Justin. You are going to die, and when you die you will be gone forever. You will experience nothing, you will think nothing, you will do nothing and you will believe nothing. What is more, your God won't either, because he exists only in your mind.

"All human beings KNOW that there is a God. Though most will not acknowledge Him, and submit to His lordship, as they wickedly want to be their own gods. That is the root of all sin."

But who defines wicked? The answer seems to be, in your understanding of the world, Jehovah. However, what if Jehovah isn't real and there is some other god? You have said nothing to disprove this statement and, if it is true, then you have no basis for your claim that wanting to be one's own god is wicked. Perhaps a different diety is real and he or she or it would prefer that we be our own gods and considers it wicked to do otherwise.

Can you disprove this?

Hi Justin ,

"All human beings KNOW that there is a God. Though most will not acknowledge Him, and submit to His lordship, as they wickedly want to be their own gods. That is the root of all sin."

No it isn't my old friend. As you have lectured me on numerous occasions the root of all sin was the act of rebellion in the Garden of Eden. When man took the knowledge that God denied him, yet left dangling in front of him.

As all of us, according to you, are born in original sin (a Catholic dogma by the way that is unsupported by scripture - strange to see you prepetuating the beliefs of a Church you despise, but hey Christianity is all about hypocrisy after all ). Thus, as individuals we have no choice but to commit this amongst numerous other sins.

Indeed, according to your previous arguments, we are bound to sin by the nature God has instilled in us until He authors faith in us and then we shall be saved. So really we can't be blamed for doing all this sinning at all.

So, my dear saved one, how about some compassion for us poor doomed sinners and lay off the pointless preaching?

I know you won't though because you enjoy rubbing the nose of the unsaved in their condition don't you? Perhaps your pride shall be your downfall too...

Blessings,
Matholwch /|\.

Bouncy,

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Actually, I believe Justin said he exists in our gut.



Justin,

How do you know that all the scientists are in Hell? How do you know that Hell even exists? Just because you read about it in a book?

I'm sure it was unintentional but the bits about the scientists and politians were actually quite funny in places. Your other sermon on sodomy was scarier.

A question. Why do you feel a need to preach when you have already said that only the already saved are welcome in your church and that no Christian can save another? What, then, is the point of your sermons?

az

All human beings KNOW that there is a God. Though most will not acknowledge Him, and submit to His lordship, as they wickedly want to be their own gods. That is the root of all sin.

Even though they know this, and those whom are the Lord's servants preach the truth to them, they will fight like tigers not to listen and obey.



Once I knew there was a god but only in the same way that I knew Santa was going to bring me presents. I did not fight gainst gods word like a tiger. I sat there and listened like a good boy but I learnt aswell and what I learnt proved that the bible was a lie in some parts and seeing as it is a lie in some parts I can never take anything that is in it seriously ever again. Good as some bits sound I can only ever see it as a guide and a work of subjective reporting. No more valuable than the Lion the withch and the Warddrobe, or a Spike Milligans recollections of WWII, but obviously not as funny as the latter.

do you realise that the lion the witch and the wardrobe is based on the christian story?

Azahar,

I did not say that all scientists are in Hell.

You are forgetting something. All Christians, unlike those of pagan religion, KNOW God. That is what Christ came for, to restore men to God, and He is in the process of saving some out of sin and darkness, unto God, right now. I am one of those He has chosen to work on, it is all of grace.

So, Christians KNOW the Person who inspired the Scripture, and can see the hand of Him who they know in what they read. They know Him who CANNOT lie, and know that He is as good as His Word. That is how they know.

Good and sensible questions, Azahar, and nearly a first on this board!

ONLY those whom God chooses to save will be saved. "Jesus said, No man can come to me except my Father draw Him." It is God's work, and it is not in the gift of any minister, preacher, or whatever.

BUT, the mechanism that He uses is the preaching of the Word of God. "God hath chosen by the foolishness of preaching to save those that believe."

"Faith cometh by hearing and hearing by the Word of God."

God gives the Word to deliver and the preached delivers it. God the Spirit takes that Word and does a work in people's hearts; the ones He is working on. That is why all preachers preach.

Justin

Hello Blickybadger,

I am sorry that you seem to have had religion forced on you. And you have done well be getting away from it. If all it was to you was so much hot air, and you thought parts of it were lies, then you are not saved, you do not know God, and you have never heard God speak to you.

Well done you. God hates two things above straigtforward sin, and one of them is hypocrisy. Better to die an honest sinner than a religious hypocrite.

Justin

Minniemouse,

I don't think that any Christian does not know that! Though I take it you are speaking to Blickybadger.

Justin

Justin,

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Yes, you did say they were in Hell and I asked you how you knew this and also how you actually know that Hell exists. Because you read it in a book or because God told you personally?

az

Azahar,

I was not writing a political speech you know! Perhaps I should reword that, that all scientists who have not repented and died believing in the myth of evolution are in Hell.

As for the second part, I thought I made that clear, sorry. My fault. Try again, Justin!

ALL CHRISTIANS KNOW GOD, PERSONALLY. (Except the nominals). Because they know Him they know what He inspired to be His work. In the same way if I could show you a letter written by your father, say, you would know it was his work, even if it were typed, simply because you know your father.

So, in one way, yes, God does teach all His children personally. I understand that to an outsider, and enemy of Christ, such things sound fantastic.

Justin

Justin,

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You ole smooth talker.

Just a thought, Justin, but you might offend people less if you stopped insulting them. You may believe someone to be the enemy of Christ or a wicked sinner, but I can't really see where it helps to tell them this. Is there a reason? Or do you just enjoy calling people the worst names you can think of?

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Hey, that is the first thing I have heard (well, read) you say that actually makes sense to me. A recognition of what we already know. Well, you say it is a 'who' and you call it God. Which is fine for you. Because in the end I don't think it is all that important what we call it. Though I have a feeling that you will disagree.

az

Justin, maybe you didn't see this posting from Evolutionary Theist, but I would be interested to hear your responce to her question:

<<"All human beings KNOW that there is a God. Though most will not acknowledge Him, and submit to His lordship, as they wickedly want to be their own gods. That is the root of all sin.">>

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I await your answer.

Azahar,

I have not, and would not, insult you! It is plain Scriptural Truth. ALL human beings who are not born again of the Holy Spirit of God are the congenital enemies of God. There is nothing you can do about that, and I was merely acknowledging the fact.

Listen, friend, if you had met Almighty God, and you had heard Him speak to you directly as all of God's people have (and I exempt the nominals here, of course) you would not dare call God a 'feeling', 'concept', or any other thing. He is a Person.

RDO,

I don't bother with such things. If they wish to tell Almighty God, whom I know and serve, that He is a liar, then let them. He will sort them out. No one escapes judgement before Christ. If all I had was a theological/intellectual/philosophical position then reason and debate would be a valid thing to engage in. But I know a Person. To engage in such foolishness as you suggest is the same, to me, as my asking you to engage in a philosophical discussion about the existence of your father. All completely ridiculous to all Christians!

I am sure you would volunteer that you could produce your father, as my anology is only a loose one, but you will meet Christ in time. Everyone is going to meet Jesus face to face. No one misses out. Sadly for most it is not going to be a happy time, as they would rather debate than repent.

Hi Justin

Azahar is no more an enemy of your God than I am. To be an 'enemy' you have to do a little more than just ignore someone or disagree with them. Being an enemy means that you actively oppose someone or thing in a deleterious way. I don't oppose your God, I just have nothing to do with him.

If you believe that everyone who ignores you Justin, or doesn't know that you exist, or doesn't agree with you is your enemy then your life must be very lonely and fearful. It would mean that you have only a handful of friends and about six billion enemies.

Sad blessings,
Matholwch /|\.

Justin,

How can God be a person if he is God? Serious question.

az

Hi Justin

"If all I had was a theological/intellectual/philosophical position then reason and debate would be a valid thing to engage in. But I know a Person."

Strange I know a Person also. Her name is Brigidh, also known as Bridey. She is an ancient celtic Goddess and my patron. I also know the Spirits of the Severn and the Mawddach, and the spirits of my ancestors. How about the boar Mochenddu who accompanies me on my journeys in the otherworld?

What makes her presence in my life any different to your God's in yours? How does she have less validity? Is it because your God says they are false? That they are demons?

My Goddess teaches me tolerance, humility, duty, mercy, honour and love. She sings to me that I should strive to have an open mind, an open heart and an open hand. What does your God teach you?

She does not demand that I preach to others or that I harm those that would ridicule or presecute me. She doesn't promise me paradise in return for slavish obedience, or threaten me with damnation should I err as all humans do. She has taught me that to love someone you must let them be free. A concept that must seem very odd to you in that little cell of your own making.

Where then is your experience different from mine? You may point at your 'infallible' Bible, and I can wave at equal amounts of ancient celtic teachings, many of which pre-date yours. They prove nothing, only that men thought about these things then as they do now.

It could also be friend that we are both deluded old fools, grasping at will-o-the-wisps. Well it won't be long before we find out will it?

Blessings,
Matholwch /|\.