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Is it a "cold day in hell?"
darakat - Now with pockets! Started conversation Oct 18, 2003
Apple has relesed iTunes for windows. Comments on the tempretures in the pandamonia are takeing place.
Is it a "cold day in hell?"
Shea the Sarcastic Posted Oct 18, 2003
Do I hear the sounds of ka-ching coming from Cupertino?
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Peet (the Pedantic Punctuation Policeman, Muse of Lateral Programming Ideas, Eggcups-Spurtle-and-Spoonswinner, BBC Cheese Namer & Zaphodista) Posted Oct 18, 2003
I guess the percentage piracy rate on Apple software just skyrocketed... 
By the way, "Hell" is a town in Alaska, and it's always cold. Hence the phrase "Colder than Hell". I never entirely understood the "Cold day in Hell" saying. Must be a Christian mythos thing... 
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dasilva Posted Oct 18, 2003
It's also a town in Norway and hence equally cold...
Apple may be shooting themselves in the foot here as it's iTunes has been people's main reason for buying Apple Macs over the last few years
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Peet (the Pedantic Punctuation Policeman, Muse of Lateral Programming Ideas, Eggcups-Spurtle-and-Spoonswinner, BBC Cheese Namer & Zaphodista) Posted Oct 18, 2003
You're right, of course. It's in Norway. 
I don't know why "Alaska" came to the forefront of my mind there. I guess I watched too much "Northern Exposure"... 
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dasilva Posted Oct 18, 2003
It's probably quite a common name...
iTunes is free, by the way 
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dElaphant (and Zeppo his dog (and Gummo, Zeppos dog)) - Left my apostrophes at the BBC Posted Oct 18, 2003
I don't think they are shooting themselves in the foot. They will make a lot of money from the music sales. Also this is not the first Apple software given away for free to Windows users - that was probably Quicktime, and it pays off in the long run to get lots of people to use your technology. Apple sold lots of Macs to people who wanted to produce Quicktime content, and still does. And if it works well on Windows, they can start to advertise the Mac as being "as easy to use as iTunes" and lots more people will understand what that means. 
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dasilva Posted Oct 18, 2003
I've helped far more people convert to Apple (and Linux) in the last few years than I have set up PCs for, which is always a good sign
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darakat - Now with pockets! Posted Oct 18, 2003
Actuly its a mythos from several relgions, and some even think that hell has both hot areas and cold areas as it where. However thats not the current dabate. iTunes is an extreemly good application and it kiks the ass off of anything I have ever seen run on windows (winamp, WMP and so forth).
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Peet (the Pedantic Punctuation Policeman, Muse of Lateral Programming Ideas, Eggcups-Spurtle-and-Spoonswinner, BBC Cheese Namer & Zaphodista) Posted Oct 18, 2003
I'm quite fond of MusicMatch Jukebox under Windoze; I got it with my Archos MP3 device. 
It only has one real irritation; it doesn't "remember" the last directory you browsed - in the same session, let alone between sessions! 
Is it a "cold day in hell?"
Bogie Posted Oct 20, 2003
The music sharing feature of iTunes for both Windows and Mac become fantastic when you are on a large corporate intranet with lots of music buffs. So far I count 30 people online with shared music... a total of 30 days worth of tunes!!!
B.
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turvy (Fetch me my trousers Geoffrey...) Posted Oct 20, 2003
WOO HOO!!!
At last I can ditch Real Player and get a decent MP3 player for the Windoze machine at work!
turvy
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turvy (Fetch me my trousers Geoffrey...) Posted Oct 21, 2003
Only for 2000 and XP.
turvy
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Bogie Posted Oct 21, 2003
You're not STILL on '98 or Melinium Edition are you? You poor thing 
!
B.
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dasilva Posted Oct 21, 2003
If you've got to make that much of a jump you might as well get a Mac anyway 
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Peet (the Pedantic Punctuation Policeman, Muse of Lateral Programming Ideas, Eggcups-Spurtle-and-Spoonswinner, BBC Cheese Namer & Zaphodista) Posted Oct 22, 2003
Downloading it now (I'm on 2000 
) - it's *huge!*
It's the best part of 20MB for the (presumably compressed) installer, as compared to just sub-5MB for my current app.
Is it a "cold day in hell?"
Peet (the Pedantic Punctuation Policeman, Muse of Lateral Programming Ideas, Eggcups-Spurtle-and-Spoonswinner, BBC Cheese Namer & Zaphodista) Posted Oct 22, 2003
Warning to anybody installing Windows' iTunes:
It comes up with a dialog box saying "You have a Quicktime application open; press 'Continue' to close it and proceed with installation."
Assuming it meant the QT launcher in the system tray, I let it continue. It proceeded to shut down my browser without further warning, losing the content of 10 of my 12 open tabs that I had opened from links in emails before deleting the emails. 
Oh, and I've restarted my computer as it insisted (for XP apps at least, this is considered to be a serious bug!) yet selecting it from the start menu seems to do nothing. How do you launch the 
thing? 
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Is it a "cold day in hell?"
- 1: darakat - Now with pockets! (Oct 18, 2003)
- 2: Shea the Sarcastic (Oct 18, 2003)
- 3: Peet (the Pedantic Punctuation Policeman, Muse of Lateral Programming Ideas, Eggcups-Spurtle-and-Spoonswinner, BBC Cheese Namer & Zaphodista) (Oct 18, 2003)
- 4: dasilva (Oct 18, 2003)
- 5: Peet (the Pedantic Punctuation Policeman, Muse of Lateral Programming Ideas, Eggcups-Spurtle-and-Spoonswinner, BBC Cheese Namer & Zaphodista) (Oct 18, 2003)
- 6: dasilva (Oct 18, 2003)
- 7: dElaphant (and Zeppo his dog (and Gummo, Zeppos dog)) - Left my apostrophes at the BBC (Oct 18, 2003)
- 8: dasilva (Oct 18, 2003)
- 9: darakat - Now with pockets! (Oct 18, 2003)
- 10: Peet (the Pedantic Punctuation Policeman, Muse of Lateral Programming Ideas, Eggcups-Spurtle-and-Spoonswinner, BBC Cheese Namer & Zaphodista) (Oct 18, 2003)
- 11: dasilva (Oct 19, 2003)
- 12: Bogie (Oct 20, 2003)
- 13: turvy (Fetch me my trousers Geoffrey...) (Oct 20, 2003)
- 14: turvy (Fetch me my trousers Geoffrey...) (Oct 21, 2003)
- 15: Bogie (Oct 21, 2003)
- 16: dasilva (Oct 21, 2003)
- 17: Bogie (Oct 22, 2003)
- 18: Peet (the Pedantic Punctuation Policeman, Muse of Lateral Programming Ideas, Eggcups-Spurtle-and-Spoonswinner, BBC Cheese Namer & Zaphodista) (Oct 22, 2003)
- 19: dasilva (Oct 22, 2003)
- 20: Peet (the Pedantic Punctuation Policeman, Muse of Lateral Programming Ideas, Eggcups-Spurtle-and-Spoonswinner, BBC Cheese Namer & Zaphodista) (Oct 22, 2003)
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