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Apparition™ (Mourning Empty the best uncle anyone could wish for) Started conversation Oct 9, 2003
Two days ago in Victoria University, the US ambassador was shouted down by students untill he abandoned his intended speech [read: swipe at government]. TV cameras showed a US flag being burnt in the parking lot.
I could not find any links but I was lucky that I have a friend in Hong Kong who had read the stories.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/storydisplay.cfm?storyID=3527932&thesection=news&thesubsection=general
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/storydisplay.cfm?storyID=3527861&thesection=news&thesubsection=general
The US wants us to revise the no nuke stance. Rightwing political parties want us to bend over and grab our ankles for the every whim of anoth country.
I find myself not only dissagreeing with the right wing in NZ but also finding that I have not even the slighest respect for them what so ever.
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DA ; Simply Vicky: Don't get pithy with me! Posted Oct 9, 2003
Exactly, Apparition! We cheered the students when we saw it on TV. I have heard on the news (radio and TV) and seen Bill English in the paper talking about how the US Ambassador wanted to advise us for our own good. Yeah, sure.
There was only ever going to be 0% chance of a 'free trade deal'. Bill, it's over.let it go.
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Apparition™ (Mourning Empty the best uncle anyone could wish for) Posted Oct 9, 2003
As the green co leader said. It's US farmer lobbying that prevents free trade (we're more efficent than they are) and we're never getting an agreement.
It's just a carrot. Remember before the war when the US embassy and helen were at odds? National party ministers were having meetings there through out.
Odd thing is. I think Rod Donald makes to most sense of anyone in government. I may change my party vote, my MP vote will continue to go to steve chadwick.
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DA ; Simply Vicky: Don't get pithy with me! Posted Oct 9, 2003
When the Alliance blew up last election, I voted Green/Helen (she's my electorate MP, and Grath actually worked on her campaign one year.)
Did you notice that the very thing Helen said (that the Iraq war would not have happened if Al Gore had won) was said a in September by Madeline Allbright, and *no one cared*? I should say, the media did their best to ignore it, but for Ana Samways in the Herald who thought it was almost amusing that Madeline Allbright said what Helen had said and been punished for!
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Apparition™ (Mourning Empty the best uncle anyone could wish for) Posted Oct 9, 2003
Garth liked her in the late 80s when no one wanted to vote labour. Is that when you mean?
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DA ; Simply Vicky: Don't get pithy with me! Posted Oct 11, 2003
No, he actually worked on her campaign staff in 1993! In the 1980s, he supported National, believe it or not...
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Empty Sky (Remember me fondly.) Posted Oct 11, 2003
Garth tells me that it was only on the early '80s that he voted National. He's basically been a Labour supporter ever since.
Apart from a few momentary mental abberations - like legalising prostitution and ending appeals to the Privy Council - Helen's Labour party has been (and still are) the best choice to govern New Zealand. Remember - nobody's perfect.
Proof of that comes in the fact that Helen's detractors have to resort to trifling detail, personal attacks and outright lies to criticize her. Showing that they don't really have adequate amunition.
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Apparition™ (Mourning Empty the best uncle anyone could wish for) Posted Oct 12, 2003
"Proof of that comes in the fact that Helen's detractors have to resort to trifling detail, personal attacks and outright lies to criticize her. Showing that they don't really have adequate amunition."
National is going down in a screaming heap. For that reason I hope the Bill retains control
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Adele the Divided (h2g2 will be your undoing) Posted Oct 13, 2003
Hi, William I hear the lesbian/spinster tag applied to Helen all the time - also 'childless'. Which has got absolutely nothing to do with her skills as apolitician!
Re Garth - he just changed, Apparition, came to his senses maybe? Do you know him, Empty?
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Adele the Divided (h2g2 will be your undoing) Posted Oct 13, 2003
This thing is as slow as a wet week! I got ahead of what I could see on the screen.
Some people hate politicians on reflex. I just hate the word, now.
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Apparition™ (Mourning Empty the best uncle anyone could wish for) Posted Oct 13, 2003
I don't hate them all. Just those who deserve it. Like Ruth
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Adele the Divided (h2g2 will be your undoing) Posted Oct 13, 2003
OOh, yes! She's rogering the NHS in the UK at the moment, or was attempting to, last I heard.
Then there's Winnie (Jean Marie le Pen) Peters...
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Empty Sky (Remember me fondly.) Posted Oct 13, 2003
"Do you know him, Empty?"
Yes I know Apparition well, he's always been extremely sensible.
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- 1: Apparition™ (Mourning Empty the best uncle anyone could wish for) (Oct 9, 2003)
- 2: DA ; Simply Vicky: Don't get pithy with me! (Oct 9, 2003)
- 3: Apparition™ (Mourning Empty the best uncle anyone could wish for) (Oct 9, 2003)
- 4: DA ; Simply Vicky: Don't get pithy with me! (Oct 9, 2003)
- 5: Apparition™ (Mourning Empty the best uncle anyone could wish for) (Oct 9, 2003)
- 6: DA ; Simply Vicky: Don't get pithy with me! (Oct 11, 2003)
- 7: Apparition™ (Mourning Empty the best uncle anyone could wish for) (Oct 11, 2003)
- 8: Empty Sky (Remember me fondly.) (Oct 11, 2003)
- 9: Apparition™ (Mourning Empty the best uncle anyone could wish for) (Oct 12, 2003)
- 10: Adele the Divided (h2g2 will be your undoing) (Oct 13, 2003)
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