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thinking outloud so god can hear me

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cheifwhat

if i understand correctly then the christians would have us believe that god created the whole lot, everything, us, the planet the solar system, everything. from scratch. he made our brains, well maybe not yours and mine directly but he must have made the first two. adam an' eve's. and if he made their brains he must have undertood how they work. so when he then says to adam that he's not to eat the apples, this god chap, well, he must have known from the outset what the result would be, he set us up to fail. surely? if he also gave us free will to choose our own paths then why do people pray? he just said he wasn't listening? but i'll come back to 'free will' later.

but enough of the 'organised religions' they appear to me as outdated fairy stories people made up to get other people to do what they wanted without their having to answer too many akward questions.

If we are all unique, then every possible outcome is to be played out at any given time. so how are any rules ever supposed to work? there will always be far too many exeptions.
if god made us for a purpose, we, as a species, must be able to do something that god can't. or he would do it without us.
Why does he have to be perfect anyway, he just needs to be clever or talented enough to create this (expansive gesture that takes in the entireity of it all).
FREEWILL: as far as i can tell, nothing random has ever happened. every single thing that has ever happened, both on this planet and beyond, has happened as a direct result of a previous action. every thought, every gust of wind, every infinitesimal shift in all those really big things and some of the small ones too.
Now, to me, at least at the moment, that seems a bit ...'planned'.
change is a continous process everything is in a constant state of flux. and whats more it seems that there is a direction of some sort. there is a sense that it is 'going somewhere'. now.ask yourself this question: if you went through all the hassle of creating a universe and every thing, with everything so inextricably linked and planned,would you leave anything to chance? would you give one species free will? or... would you just give them the illusion of it?
(i read a few books by oliver sacks on neurology coupled with a mate of mine who told me what the odds on this planet A: existing and B: continuing to exist are. something about me and all my future descendants winning the lottery everyday for a very long time, it got me thinking. dammit.)( as a curious side note to all this; i had just finished re-reading this and said to myself 'god, my handwriting is really poor' when a strange voice said 'yes, it is'....go figure?)


thinking outloud so god can hear me

Post 2

cheifwhat

if we take away all the things we do that we are not conciously aware of, all the information our senses give us that is suppresed; the thoughts that are withheld; the actions that we perform without thinking; the desires that we have, the urges; the time spent doing things we 'have' too due to addiction or impulses that we don't control. well whats left, anything? am i in there at all? why am i writing this? we dont chose the people we love or the music we like or our taste's in..... anything?. its all decided by a subconcious that we have little, if any, control over.
I see dogs wandering about doing what ever comes natural. i see baby's reacting to things in the most obvious ways, i see adults doing the same. maybe because we can never appreciate the level we are at individually, then we don't/can't see that we are not as free as we would have ourselves believe.
How much of me does my concious mind make up? am i not made up of 'experiences' that affect each other through time? as a baby we do not chose our environments, and by the time anyone's 'grown up' the damage has already been done. irreparibly. what is 'me'?


winking

Post 3

cheifwhat

why is it that whenever a being needs to leave one existence or another, it does so by means of 'winking'.
surely there must be another way?
does it mean that only creatures with two eyes or more can perform this operation? in order to wink you need at least two eyes, how do you wink if you have three eyes? do you close one eye by itself and leave two open or do you close two and leave one? is it the eye that closes that constitutes a wink or is it it's relation to the open one?
if i were to have only one eye, and i closed it, that would not constitute a wink i believe. it needs the other to give it meaning.
can monocular people travel between dimensions?
does having one eye reduce the cances, at least, of 'winking out of existence'and would this mean that we would all live a little longer if we only had one 'peeper'? how would this affect our ability to percieve a three dimensional world? would this reduce our visual capacity, leaving us with a two dimensional view? thus meaning that just the act of winking is in itself a change of existence?
b******d if i know.


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