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Preventive and Dissociate
Icy North Started conversation Feb 17, 2011
Do we want to standardise on a couple of alternative forms?
It's generally agreed that preventive is preferred to preventative, and dissociate to disassociate.
I found quite a few occurrences in the EG - let me know if you'd like me to list them.
Icy
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Icy North Posted Feb 17, 2011
...and I meant to post this in Editorial Feedback, sorry.
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KB Posted Feb 17, 2011
Let a hundred flowers bloom, would be my reaction in this instance. They both seem to me to be acceptable English - I wouldn't like to change them just to have greater uniformity of usage.
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Icy North Posted Feb 17, 2011
It's true that some words like judg(e)ment have equally acceptable alternatives, but my view is that it's less equal for these ones.
I'm happy to abide by any editorial decision, of course
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KB Posted Feb 17, 2011
I'd rather leave them as they are since both are listed in the dictionary anyway - but if there had to be an editorial decision (or an etorial descion) about it, I guess I'd also abide by it.
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The H2G2 Editors Posted Feb 22, 2011
Hi there. As both spellings are correct it would seem a bit unnecessary to correct them all. So we think you should let them stand. But how about an Entry on these and other words that have been simplified and shortened over time.
Preventive and Dissociate
Icy North Posted Feb 22, 2011
I'm not convinced it would make that riveting an entry, to be honest, Eds.
Just looked them up in Fowlers:
Dissociate was first recorded in 1623, is slightly later than its variant disassociate, and is now the more favoured form. Having said that, the variant is widely used and sounds more emphatic. If you want to retain both, then that's fine by me, but I'd prefer it if they weren't freely interchangeable - maybe retain the longer one for emphatic use only?
Preventive is far more common than preventative. We tend to use preventive to describe 'things that serve to prevent', such as medicines. Preventative on the other hand we tend to use with activities, eg preventative action or preventative measure. Maybe we could use one or t'other depending on this criterion?
Let me know if you agree. I'm keen that we take issues of language usage seriously on this site, as it is fast becoming a serious and quotable source for reliable information.
Icy
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Vip Posted Feb 22, 2011
You know, I've never really seen the short forms used. I would have just assumed they were misspelling of the long forms.
I think agreeing for a future House Style is a good idea, but just how many of these types of words are there?
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