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Recumbentman Posted Aug 17, 2009
I'm wondering why Hercules remained anonymous: a kneeling figure.
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Gnomon - time to move on Posted Aug 17, 2009
Yes, I was wondering about that too.
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Galaxy Babe - eclectic editor Posted Aug 17, 2009
Possibly it means Atlas in other cultures, as well as Hercules
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Gnomon - time to move on Posted Aug 18, 2009
Further reading of the Almagest Star Catalogue shows that Ptolemy didn't give names to very many stars. Of the 2,000 stars in the catalogue, only 11 have names provided. I wonder did the ancient Greeks just not name the stars much, or was it that he didn't bother providing the names?
I've been trying to figure it out. He doesn't even provide a name for the third brightest star in the sky, Alpha Centauri, although he lists it as first magnitude, brighter than some of the stars he does provide names for. And Aldebaran, which is a very distinctive bright star, is also not given a name. He does however have names for most of the other brightest stars - Sirius, Vega, Capella, Arcturus etc.
The star Spica is very important to Ptolemy because it lies very close to the Ecliptic, the path taken by the Sun across the sky. As a result, it occasionally goes behind the moon and Ptolemy uses the timings of these events to measure the precession of the heavens.
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Elentari Posted Aug 18, 2009
This is a ridiculously hootoo thread. All we need now is a nonsensical 2legs appearance.
*waits*
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Galaxy Babe - eclectic editor Posted Aug 19, 2009
In my research I have found for Aldebaran: Lampadias (the torch-bearer) and Omma Boos in Greek. I have no idea which is correct, or maybe there were two names, it has so many: Tascheter (Persian)
Parilicium (Roman) Sataves (Hindu) and the Latin Oculus Tauri
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Gnomon - time to move on Posted Aug 19, 2009
I believe Boos means "of the cows". I don't know what Omma is. But Ptolemy doesn't give any name for this star. He actually only names 11 stars, not even all the 1st magnitude ones.
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Galaxy Babe - eclectic editor Posted Aug 19, 2009
Strange.
I am writing an Entry on Aldebaran, I've tried to add what names I can find. Shall I add both Greek names do you think?
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Gnomon - time to move on Posted Aug 19, 2009
OK, Omma Boos means "Eye of the Bull".
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Gnomon - time to move on Posted Aug 19, 2009
I'm not sure about Lampadias - it seems to mean "burning torch", and was applied to Halley's Comet, and also possibly to Aldebaran.
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Gnomon - time to move on Posted Aug 20, 2009
I bought a book yesterday called "The Brightest Stars", which has sections about each of the 21 first magnitude stars. I skimmed through Aldebaran - it's the first magnitude star with the fastest motion away from us, and fourth fastest of the the 300 brightest stars (I think). In the past, about 200,000 years ago, it would have been much closer and the brightest star in the sky by far. Unfortunately, our legends don't go back that far. I can look up all these details for you if you are interested, or perhaps you know them already.
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Galaxy Babe - eclectic editor Posted Aug 20, 2009
It's in PR now, if you have anything to add I'd be happy to make it collaborate
I have a busy day RL today, but I am certainly interested, thanks!
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Gnomon - time to move on Posted Aug 20, 2009
Actually, I'm not sure I'll get a chance to look at the book this evening, and then I'm going on holidays until 31 August, so I may not have time. I'm sure your entry will be fine without my contributions.
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