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What I learned today...

Post 1

Ottox

That I shouldn't trust even my best friends.

I thought at least one of them had understood, when I read F72158?thread=173245&post=1865030, but no...



"I was surprised, I was happy for a day..."


What I learned today...

Post 2

Amy Pawloski, aka 'paper lady'--'Mufflewhump'?!? click here to find out... (ACE)

smiley - cry

Dear, you know full well what I was referring to there--we'd discussed that via email.

As to what sunny and I have been discussing via email--it was supposed to be a very good surprise! (If someone were to tell me what they got you for Christmas, you wouldn't expect me to tell you, would you?) We thought you'd enjoy it! I'm sorry I hurt you. *Please* believe me when I say I did not mean to. *Please* talk to me...

*Please* don't let our friendship be wrecked...smiley - grovel

smiley - cry

smiley - wah


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Post 3

sunny


I am _not_ going to post here.

Yes - it seems _one_ of us had understood: Amy


you know _exactly_ what I feel for you.



I'm looking forward to the moment we'll be able to talk or email about this.


* doesn't even know how to sign any longer *


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Post 4

sunny


how much of a friendship would it be if this would be able to wreck it? you both know how much you value each other.

he can say 'no thank you, I don't want to go' and use it on a new computer.



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Post 5

sunny


we _are_ two of your friends - if you let us.

smiley - peacedove


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Post 6

Ottox

Amy, since I know what you were referring to, I'm not going to reply here.

sunny, I _said_ that. "Even my best friends". Don't think I would be bothered about this, if you were NOT my friends.


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Post 7

sunny


maybe we'll find definitions for 'surprise' and 'dishonesty' we can agree on.

although I'm not planning to do this on a regular basis, mind you ... smiley - smiley


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Post 8

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What I learned today...

Post 9

sunny


Subject: What I learned today...
That I shouldn't trust even my best friends.
"I was surprised, I was happy for a day..."

maybe you should tell us your definition of 'trust' some day.


What you learned that day...

Post 10

sunny

smiley - peacedove

if you _really_ learned something that day maybe next time when you're confused you could post that you're confused. Instead of posting that you can't trust even your best friends.

Because even your best friends some day might get _too_ hurt to stay open towards you if they risk being shot like this.

But I think that got very clear that day.

It was exactly the contrary of what we wanted to happen. You know that.


If _any_thing good comes from it, that would at least be that.


And I mean open at the heart smiley - winkeye


What you learned that day...

Post 11

Amy Pawloski, aka 'paper lady'--'Mufflewhump'?!? click here to find out... (ACE)

*nods*


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Post 12

Ottox

smiley - cross

With danger of letting everything start all over again:

I haven't said anything, I didn't mean!

I hope that others learned something as well. Mainly that I have feelings too. Thank you.


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Post 13

sunny



now that you mention it...



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Post 14

Ottox

I do.

Lots of feelings. I prefer the good ones.


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Post 15

sunny


smiley - smiley


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Post 16

sunny


'I'm still learning'

Michelangelo's Motto

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'I _never_ said ... anyone ... was
dishonest, I say it's hard to trust ...
There's quite a big difference between this and dishonesty to me.'


there IS indeed!!!

being called dishonest for what I did sure made ME lose my temper about it.

thanks for explaining.

smiley - peacedove


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Post 17

Amy Pawloski, aka 'paper lady'--'Mufflewhump'?!? click here to find out... (ACE)

smiley - hug


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Post 18

Ottox

And I *never* called you or anyone else that!

smiley - hug


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Post 19

Amy Pawloski, aka 'paper lady'--'Mufflewhump'?!? click here to find out... (ACE)

Well, I explained what made me think you had, and I'm guessing the same thing went through sunny's mind that day...

smiley - hug


What you learned that day...

Post 20

sunny


That I shouldn't trust even my best friends.
I thought at least one of them had understood, when I read F72158?thread=173245&post=1865030, but no...
"I was surprised, I was happy for a day..."

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> I don't think it will backfire--it can only help. I know he appreciates honesty above just about anything.
...

> I have the strong feeling that we are similar / close to each other in many ways - being recklessly honest playing a big part in it.
...

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the postings _are_ about honesty and _not_ about trust as far as I can see.

I'll be glad to be corrected on this though.

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if I (re-)learned _any_thing by it it's _NOT_ to rely on what you're certain the other means but _ASK_ (well - I _DID_ ask ...) - and maybe even _WAIT_ for a reply.

* still understands herself for having gotten into it as had NO bl... idea about what was happening... *

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> I already see us in the same room, still communicating in writing because we're so good at it


yeah, ... RIGHT!

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oh, well


smiley - tea anybody?


any fresh Mufflewhumps at hand, Amy?


[am logging out _now_ though *waves*]


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