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Bluebottle Started conversation Dec 21, 2011
A sub-editor is requested for an exciting project about some famous films.
A87730130 – Project Page
A87730149 - The Christopher Reeve Era Superman Films
A87730158 - 'Superman' - The Film
A87730167 - 'Superman II' - The Film
A87730176 - 'Superman III' - The Film
A87730185 - 'Supergirl' - The Film
A87730194 - 'Superman IV: The Quest For Peace' - The Film
Probably asking for trouble, as these are films that many fans feel very passionately about, and if I write anything they disagree with I'm sure I'll hear it...
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aka Bel - A87832164 Posted Dec 21, 2011
Why do you do so many university projects? It's a strain on the reviewers (not to mention the sub-ed). You could submit them one by one, have them go through PR as single entities and then have the links bits at the top added afterwards. I bet you'd get more reviewers, too. Think about it.
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Gnomon - time to move on Posted Dec 21, 2011
I think Bluebottle's projects are well suited to the University. He writes so much that there would be a lot of work keeping track of them all and adding links to them if they went into Peer Review separately. And he does keep a constant stream of good entries in Peer Review as well which are not part of the University.
Unfortunately, Bluebottle, it does mean that you may have to wait for a sub-editor to come along, as we are a bit short of active subs at the moment.
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aka Bel - A87832164 Posted Dec 21, 2011
I never said they weren't suited to the universities. All I said (albeit in other words) is that I'm glad that GB didn't submit her 80 something astronomy entries as a university project. I didn't know the eds had problems to keep track of them , either.
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Gnomon - time to move on Posted Dec 21, 2011
Well, the Eds or the Curators. Galaxy Babe being a curator, she was able to do all the fiddling around with entries herself. Every time a new entry was added, the links at the top of all the other entries had to be changed. So that was 80 + 79 + 78 + 77 +... + 1 different edits, which works out as 3,240 separate edits just to get the links at the top working.
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aka Bel - A87832164 Posted Dec 21, 2011
Well the above are six entries, and if the curators/eds waited until they were all edited it wouldn't be more work than it is in a uni project.
Anyway. Since I wrote one myself I totally dislike uni projects. Mine was even smaller than this (five short entries) and I had the grand total of three reviewers. Now that may be because the entries were crap and I never found out due to lack of reviewers. But then again it may be because reviewers shy away form uni projects, especially from large ones. Personally, I'll never again bother with a uni project.
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Galaxy Babe - eclectic editor Posted Dec 21, 2011
you've made me just remembering all the fiddling...but at least I'm getting a chance to use the new smileys...
a Superman project? If no-one else has taken it by the New Year I'll back and take it.
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AlexAshman Posted Dec 21, 2011
You may need to do that, GB. I'd offer to do another project but I've got 18 more entries to go on my current BB project, and I think Icy was lining me up for another one after that
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Bluebottle Posted Dec 21, 2011
I've only done 13 University projects since 1999 (and one guest article for someone else's), with 9 projects making it to the Front Page. It isn't that many...
Admittedly Tufty's ended up a little longer than most, but in my defence the Isle of Wight Coastal Path before that one was supposed to be a single article that other people recommending splitting into a Uni Project as it was a little long. I successfully resisted the temptation for my recent Hadrian's Wall article a Uni Project, but kept things short and sweet there, so it could be worse.
Sadly, I don't think you necessarily get more reviewers if things are done as single articles. I've had an article on Winchester Cathedral in Peer Review for 5 weeks and not a single person has commented on it. I generally don't seem to attract that many reviewers to my articles in peer review in any case - whether it's because more attention is given to new writers to help encourage them more (which is fair enough), or because what I write has limited interest (which I can understand), I don't know.
But sadly I believe there is truth that Uni projects don't attract as much attention as they should. Readers may read the first entry and then not realise that there are more articles to go to (which is why I believe in links at the bottom as well as the top of articles, so readers finish one article and are led automatically to the next, but that's another debate).
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Galaxy Babe - eclectic editor Posted Dec 22, 2011
I had the same problem submitting the constellation articles to PR individually. On the one hand very few reviewers made me crestfallen, but on the other I thought people must have read them and thought them so good there was no need to nitpick
OK I will take these, but I need someone to tell me how to get control of them
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Bluebottle Posted Dec 22, 2011
Thanks for volunteering to take these - the BB&GB Team together again!
I'll let you know here when I've finished writing them all.
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Bluebottle Posted Jan 26, 2012
I notice you've already listed them as 'Entries I've Subbed' A19035786
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Galaxy Babe - eclectic editor Posted Jan 26, 2012
Indeed, my first subbings since April 2011
I was actually nicking the code for the Uni Arts & Entertainment badge, so killing two birds with one stone.
Where would you like me to ask questions of you? Here, or make a new thread on your PS?
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Bluebottle Posted Jan 26, 2012
I think a new thread on my PS would be more appropriate.
I sense a long list coming on...
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- 1: Bluebottle (Dec 21, 2011)
- 2: aka Bel - A87832164 (Dec 21, 2011)
- 3: Gnomon - time to move on (Dec 21, 2011)
- 4: aka Bel - A87832164 (Dec 21, 2011)
- 5: Gnomon - time to move on (Dec 21, 2011)
- 6: aka Bel - A87832164 (Dec 21, 2011)
- 7: Galaxy Babe - eclectic editor (Dec 21, 2011)
- 8: AlexAshman (Dec 21, 2011)
- 9: Bluebottle (Dec 21, 2011)
- 10: Galaxy Babe - eclectic editor (Dec 22, 2011)
- 11: Bluebottle (Dec 22, 2011)
- 12: Galaxy Babe - eclectic editor (Dec 22, 2011)
- 13: Lanzababy - Guide Editor (Dec 22, 2011)
- 14: Bluebottle (Jan 25, 2012)
- 15: Galaxy Babe - eclectic editor (Jan 26, 2012)
- 16: Bluebottle (Jan 26, 2012)
- 17: Galaxy Babe - eclectic editor (Jan 26, 2012)
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