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Peer Review: A87911265 - Odonata - Dragonflies, Damselflies and Demoiselles
SashaQ - happysad Started conversation Jun 2, 2018
Entry: Odonata - Dragonflies, Damselflies and Demoiselles - A87911265
Author: SashaQ - happysad - Editor - U9936370
Here's a little Entry about a group of insects that I enjoyed studying a couple of weeks ago.
A87911265 - Odonata - Dragonflies, Damselflies and Demoiselles
minorvogonpoet Posted Jun 2, 2018
Thank you for this.
I like watching damselflies and dragonflies. I think I can identify beautiful and banded demoiselles but I'm not sure about dragonflies.
Am I right in thinking that the order Odonata is ancient and they were about the first creatures to fly?
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ITIWBS Posted Jun 2, 2018
They go back to the carboniferous and were still producing specimens with two foot wing spans as late as the Jurassic.
The point that they live by means of taking mosquitoes and other flying insects on the wing has many times been an inspiration for spin off science fiction special effects.
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SashaQ - happysad Posted Jun 6, 2018
Thanks for reading
Yes, dragonfly ID is quite tricky, as the variations between species can be quite subtle... I have an ID guide, which is very handy indeed http://www.buckinghampress.co.uk/british-dragonflies.html
Yes, the Protodonata group does date back 300million years, so the proto-dtragonflies were one of the first to fly... A two-foot wingspan insect would be rather scary - I was startled enough by a three-inch wingspan one that accidentally flew into the house one summer's day, but luckily it went straight back outside again after hitting the wall
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Bluebottle Posted Jun 7, 2018
There were larger insects of all kinds, including , in the days that had higher oxygen levels. They had very creepy episodes of 'Walking With Monsters'.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2011/08/110808-ancient-insects-bugs-giants-oxygen-animals-science/
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ITIWBS Posted Jun 7, 2018
though sometimes irritating, all of the odonata are so far as I know otherwise harmless to humans.
See also, 'ant lion lacewings'.
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Gnomon - time to move on Posted Jun 12, 2018
Hi Sasha
This entry is good - well written and easy to read.
Please change the https to http in the links to the photos. This will allow them to work in the old Ripley skins as well as the new Pliny system.
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Gnomon - time to move on Posted Jun 12, 2018
If you want any more photos, I've a nice picture of one of these which you can have:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/eoinmcauley/27881088517/
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SashaQ - happysad Posted Jun 12, 2018
Thanks Gnomon
The links in the Entry work ok for me in Brunel, but yes I will send copies of the photos to the Editors so they can be added directly to the Entry rather than as links
Oh wow - the photo of the Demoiselle is beautiful indeed Thank you - that will be an asset to the Entry I haven't ever seen one in real life, but I may yet be lucky this year - I've seen a superb number of dragonflies and damselflies already, as the warm sunny weather suits them
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Tavaron da Quirm - Arts Editor Posted Jun 14, 2018
Hi Sasha!
A very interesting Entry. I only found the introduction a bit dry maybe.
And very good pictures, also Gnomon's!
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SashaQ - happysad Posted Jun 15, 2018
Hi Tav!
Thanks for reading - yes, I totally agree the introduction was dry, and didn't convey my enthusiasm for these creatures, so I have updated it
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Tavaron da Quirm - Arts Editor Posted Jun 15, 2018
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Gnomon - time to move on Posted Jun 16, 2018
“ are all insects, so they have a head, thorax and abdomen, two eyes, six legs and two pairs of wings.”
This suggests that all insects have two pairs of wings. In fact most insects are beetles and they have modified one pair into wing cases. House flies have only one pair, the other pair being reduced to just stumps which may still provide a stabilising effect.
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ITIWBS Posted Jun 16, 2018
The minute and stubby wing stumps of the diptera (flies), are also import sensory organs allowing the to sense displacements in the air like those produced by a hand descending in a swat.
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SashaQ - happysad Posted Jun 16, 2018
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Gnomon - time to move on Posted Jun 18, 2018
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Gnomon - time to move on Posted Jun 19, 2018
I saw a dragonfly in the south of France with a body that was 15cm in length and about 1cm thick. You don't mention anything this size. Is your entry only about British dragonflies?
I think it would be better if you put the Anatomy section before the Lifecycle section.
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SashaQ - happysad Posted Jun 21, 2018
Wow - that must have been a sight to behold!
I've reordered as you suggested, and also included a bit more about dragonflies of the world so hopefully that is better...
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SashaQ - happysad Posted Jun 25, 2018
It was another hot weekend, so the dragonflies and damselflies were frolicking - I saw a Broad Bodied Chaser http://www.flickr.com/photos/sashaq99/41195548040/in/dateposted-public/
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Peer Review: A87911265 - Odonata - Dragonflies, Damselflies and Demoiselles
- 1: SashaQ - happysad (Jun 2, 2018)
- 2: minorvogonpoet (Jun 2, 2018)
- 3: ITIWBS (Jun 2, 2018)
- 4: SashaQ - happysad (Jun 6, 2018)
- 5: Bluebottle (Jun 7, 2018)
- 6: ITIWBS (Jun 7, 2018)
- 7: SashaQ - happysad (Jun 7, 2018)
- 8: Gnomon - time to move on (Jun 12, 2018)
- 9: Gnomon - time to move on (Jun 12, 2018)
- 10: SashaQ - happysad (Jun 12, 2018)
- 11: Tavaron da Quirm - Arts Editor (Jun 14, 2018)
- 12: SashaQ - happysad (Jun 15, 2018)
- 13: Tavaron da Quirm - Arts Editor (Jun 15, 2018)
- 14: Gnomon - time to move on (Jun 16, 2018)
- 15: ITIWBS (Jun 16, 2018)
- 16: SashaQ - happysad (Jun 16, 2018)
- 17: Gnomon - time to move on (Jun 18, 2018)
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