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Tavaron da Quirm - Arts Editor Started conversation Mar 14, 2012
Entry: UPDATE: Massively Multiplayer Online RPGs - A87721725
Author: Tavaron da Quirm - Arts Editor - U1314679
This is an update for A13492640
I want to put it into the WW first to find out what people don't understand. I'm also not sure if I said everything I should.
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Nosebagbadger {Ace} Posted Mar 15, 2012
I would say it looks good, though i would suggest some detail about average costs to purchase/pay monthly MMMORGs
There are a few spelling mistakes, but less then in most PR entries, so i'll deal with them when i get a chance
I'd say put it in PR for more comments
Are updated entries getting artwork when they're put on the FP?
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Gnomon - time to move on Posted Mar 15, 2012
If the original entry already has a picture, we may use it or we may provide a new one. We certainly won't hold up the publication process waiting for a picture.
But if the original entry being updated didn't have a picture, we'll get one for the new entry and will not publish it until a picture is available.
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Tavaron da Quirm - Arts Editor Posted Mar 15, 2012
It doesn't have a picture and I didn't have any idea for one yet. I'm not sure wether a screenshot of a specific game would be good.
You are right about the fees, I added a paragraph at the top.
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Tavaron da Quirm - Arts Editor Posted Mar 15, 2012
.. what do you say about putting it to PR Gnomon?
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Gnomon - time to move on Posted Mar 15, 2012
I notice you use the word "equip" in an odd way. I don't know whether this is gamer terminology or just a mistake. In English, a player is equipped with weapons. You can't say that the weapons are equipped.
I've had to change this in numerous places in the Guild Wars entries. It would be nice to get it sorted before you put this into Peer Review. Other than that, this is ready to go.
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Tavaron da Quirm - Arts Editor Posted Mar 15, 2012
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Gnomon - time to move on Posted Mar 15, 2012
Every time you said the weapon was equipped, I changed it to the player being equipped with the weapon. It means the same thing and we need to make the entry readable to a person who doesn't use the terminology all the time.
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Gnomon - time to move on Posted Mar 15, 2012
Oh, and "insinuates" is the wrong word. I know it's from the original, but you should change it.
"Insinuates" means that it makes an unpleasant suggestion, where there is nothing unpleasant intended. Use "implies" instead.
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Tavaron da Quirm - Arts Editor Posted Mar 15, 2012
thanks! I really could have thought of that myself. I'll change it (hope I spot it everywhere) and then put it to PR.
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Vip Posted Mar 15, 2012
I will just mention that I equip weapons. It may be worth a footnote as any gamer reading the Entry might think it a but weird that you weren't talking about equipping weapons. Bad grammar it might be, but it is also normal gamer terminology.
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Lanzababy - Guide Editor Posted Mar 15, 2012
Thanks for this Vip - that is exactly why I don't comment on any game Entry - as I never play, so the terminology and scenarios are total unknowns for me.
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Tavaron da Quirm - Arts Editor Posted Mar 15, 2012
yes, thanks Vip
Unfortunately I was unable to find 'equip' in this entry, I only found 'equipment'. Maybe I'm just blind.
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Gnomon - time to move on Posted Mar 15, 2012
I think we have to write in English rather than in Gamer.
For example, this sentence out of Guild Wars 2 uses the word equipped in a way which makes the sentence very hard to understand:
"The Thief also has special weapon skills that depend on the combination of main hand and off hand weapon equipped."
I've no problem with most gamer terms because they aren't normal English words, but words like "equip" and "level" (as a verb) give problems because they mean something different from normal English.
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Tavaron da Quirm - Arts Editor Posted Mar 15, 2012
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Vip Posted Mar 15, 2012
It's good to have both types of reviewers, because that sentence reads perfectly to me. It's easy to forget that jargon is sometimes even more impenetrable when it uses normal words in a different way.
I agree that using English correctly is more important as we hope to appeal to people who are not gamers as well as people who play.
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Tavaron da Quirm - Arts Editor Posted Mar 15, 2012
That's my problem, I often don't notice when I write things that others don't understand because they make perfect sense to me.
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Gnomon - time to move on Posted Mar 15, 2012
The sentence is "These too have 'stats', which improve upon the attributes of the character who has them equipped."
You could say "the character who is equipped with them".
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Tavaron da Quirm - Arts Editor Posted Mar 15, 2012
A87721725 - UPDATE: Massively Multiplayer Online RPGs
Tavaron da Quirm - Arts Editor Posted Mar 15, 2012
I put it into PR F48874?thread=8291377
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Edited Guide Writing Workshop: A87721725 - UPDATE: Massively Multiplayer Online RPGs
- 1: Tavaron da Quirm - Arts Editor (Mar 14, 2012)
- 2: Nosebagbadger {Ace} (Mar 15, 2012)
- 3: Gnomon - time to move on (Mar 15, 2012)
- 4: Tavaron da Quirm - Arts Editor (Mar 15, 2012)
- 5: Tavaron da Quirm - Arts Editor (Mar 15, 2012)
- 6: Gnomon - time to move on (Mar 15, 2012)
- 7: Tavaron da Quirm - Arts Editor (Mar 15, 2012)
- 8: Gnomon - time to move on (Mar 15, 2012)
- 9: Gnomon - time to move on (Mar 15, 2012)
- 10: Tavaron da Quirm - Arts Editor (Mar 15, 2012)
- 11: Vip (Mar 15, 2012)
- 12: Lanzababy - Guide Editor (Mar 15, 2012)
- 13: Tavaron da Quirm - Arts Editor (Mar 15, 2012)
- 14: Gnomon - time to move on (Mar 15, 2012)
- 15: Tavaron da Quirm - Arts Editor (Mar 15, 2012)
- 16: Vip (Mar 15, 2012)
- 17: Tavaron da Quirm - Arts Editor (Mar 15, 2012)
- 18: Gnomon - time to move on (Mar 15, 2012)
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