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GrandSamDonald Started conversation Jul 29, 2005
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4727975.stm
Well done chaps.
Now let's get on with picking up those mullahs and activists who are responsible for inciting the slaughter of innocents and intern them or return them to from wherever they came.
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azahar Posted Jul 29, 2005
"reported to be in custody"
Nothing for sure yet.
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Nothing to say to that really, just thought I'd post it again to highlight the absolute almost maniacal hatred and totally out-of-control xenophobia expressed.
az
ps
Jesus had a beard
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GrandSamDonald Posted Jul 29, 2005
So Az
Do tell...
If you think my solution represents 'maniacal hatred and totally out-of-control xenophobia' what do you think we should do with these raving mullahs who incite the slaughter of innocents???
You should be careful about using such superlative language. What would you have said if I had advocated they be lined up and shot? Would that be 'very totally uniquely out-of-control xenophobia' and something else?
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TheKnightGerund Posted Jul 29, 2005
" I'd post it again to highlight the absolute almost maniacal hatred and totally out-of-control xenophobia expressed"
Was the word "almost" really necessary there?
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Good_News Posted Jul 29, 2005
I agree with Sam here and I think the only reason you disagree with Sam is because it is Sam who is saying it. If anybody else had said it (and most people believe it-who doesn't think we should stop people from encouraging and promoting mass murder?) you would not have commented in the way that you did.
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TheKnightGerund Posted Jul 29, 2005
>>I think the only reason you disagree with Sam is because it is Sam who is saying it<<
Absolutely not. We are having a go at Sam because he exposed his racist sentiments to public view.
There is a reasonable argument to be made that action should be taken against preachers who exclaim in public that people who do not follow their paricular strain of their particular religion are evil and deserve to die and go to hell. It's not an argument I agree with, and as such I support the free speech of the likes of yourself, Sam and your islamic equivalents, but nonetheless the argument is there. If it were expressed politely and without racism I would still disagree, but I would do so with a modicum of respect.
When the line is crossed into incitement to violence, a crime has taken place and our existing laws are adequately equipped to act against it. If there is no incitement to violence or racial hatred* there is no crime, and ther would be no fairness in holding people of a different religion, nationality or ethnicity to a different standard of justice. In this regard, you may find the following article both useful and informative:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_of_law
*I maintain my view that the proposed incitement to religous hatred law, and the existing incitement to racial hatred law are facile and ultimately worthless, and that there should be, if anything, a single "incitement to hatred" law. The law, however, stands as it stands.
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PastorW Posted Jul 30, 2005
Hello,
I was sent a link by someone who saw my name being dragged through the dirt and your supporting me. I am the 'Justin the Preacher' they speak of, but their understanding of my past is a little 'interesting' to say the least! If they had not mentioned my name I would have had no idea they were talking about me, it is so wrong! Never mind. Their master is delighted and they have to serve him, they have no choice.
I discovered to my surprise that I have my own space here by simply being signed up on the BBC's board. No idea how, but there we are.
Thanks for your support, but be warned; don't tell them anything outside of that which the Lord God says you should; the gospel only, nothing of the things of God. Don't tell them about what you have experienced of Him, they will do as their type do in Mt.7:6.
Yours, PW.
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azahar Posted Jul 30, 2005
Hi Justin,
Long time no see.
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I believe it comes from your 'interesting' testimony:
http://www.newtestamentpattern.net/testimonies/justinhughes.htm
Are you suggesting that the testimony isn't true?
az
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PastorW Posted Jul 30, 2005
That testimony bears no relation to what you and others have posted, as you very well know.
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badger party tony party green party Posted Jul 30, 2005
My how these faithers love to lie.
"Oh we are persecuted"
"they lie about us"
Right if anyone had said the tosh above about Mullahs and such like az would have said the same.
If someone had said the same thing about Born Again Christians az would have said the same thing.
She is very rarely prejudiced in the way you are suggesting she is. We can all be that we because we are impassioned or reach an opinion without full awareness of a situation or person. az has never shown anywhere any knee-jerk anti-christian opinion.
HOW SHOULD WE DEAL WITH THESE PREACHERS OF HATE?
Exactly what az and the rest here are doing point how hateful and devsive their rhetoric is and how we dont need any people ranting about their bigGs laws to just get along and be decent people with each other.
That´s what I do anyway.
You give hate you get hate.
You give love...
one love
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taliesin Posted Jul 30, 2005
Hey, PW
Mt. 7:1, 7:2, 7:3, 7:4 and, (one of my favourites), 7:5
Your 'good book' is so conveniently full of ambiguity and contradiction.
Incidentally, it is also liberally spiced with amusing supersititous nonsense, which unfortunately fails to mitigate the injustices, cruelty and violence contained therein
<-- pagan symbol of the accursed minions of 'The Evil Master'
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anhaga Posted Jul 31, 2005
Hey Taliesin. Don't bother casting those references before these. Remember 7:6.
Not that these ones are likely to have the strength to rend anyone.
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taliesin Posted Jul 31, 2005
Normally I don't bother casting anything before anybody
Perhaps it's the heat making me cranky
I know it makes me a believer: I believe I'll have another beer...
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anhaga Posted Jul 31, 2005
I better actually give the authoritative references for the above:
http://www.thebricktestament.com/the_gospels/jesuss_teachings/mt07_06a.html
http://www.thebricktestament.com/the_gospels/jesuss_teachings/mt07_06b.html
http://www.thebricktestament.com/the_gospels/jesuss_teachings/mt07_06c.html
http://www.thebricktestament.com/the_gospels/jesuss_teachings/mt07_06d.html
and I can't resist this one:
http://www.thebricktestament.com/the_gospels/jesuss_teachings/mt07_04a.html
http://www.thebricktestament.com/the_gospels/jesuss_teachings/mt07_04b.html
That's a heck of a log!
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PastorW Posted Jul 31, 2005
GSD,
I see that you are trying to get turkeys to vote for Christmas, my brother. You cannot do it. Their master and father will not allow them to admit that they are utterly wicked, and repentence unto life is entirely the engineering of, and gift of, our Lord.
Be careful not to post anything here amongst those who Jesus refers to in Mt.7:6 which is outiside the gospel. Most, probably all, of them will fight Christ until they die. He will save the odd one, perhaps, but most are going to stand before Christ as his enemies. The same is true of the world at large, of course. In dealing with most you are dealing with him whom they serve in sin and wickedness every day of their lives, (unwittingly in most cases).
W.
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azahar Posted Jul 31, 2005
<> (Justin)
In fact, people have only posted things about you based on your testimony and your various postings here and elsewhere. How else would people know anything about you?
<> (warning to Sam)
Outside the gospel? Are you referring to the voices in your heads that tell you that God is speaking to you directly?
You constantly say that the Word of God is only for His followers. Yet the bible exists for everyone to read. Anyone at all.
Are you implying that there are 'secret messages' in the bible for 'true followers' that can only be 'understood' by them? Do you not realise how nuts this sounds? Why were YOU chosen, Justin?
Do you know?
Out of all the scumbag alcoholic unfaithful husbands, WHY did Jesus choose YOU? Do you ever wonder about this?
Or have you not ever considered that you were under a huge amount of personal and emotional stress when you got 're-born', so that this gave you both a phychological and emotional boost to keep on living? The way you described it in your testimony it was like feeling 'high as a kite'. Interesting. Why do you believe it was Jesus who did this and not yourself?
Why do you need someone, something else, to explain your life to you?
An honest question, Justin. Will you answer it as yourself and without the usual rhetoric? Or does Justin no longer exist?
az
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anhaga Posted Jul 31, 2005
Az:
My recomendation is to put Justin and his Satanic master behind you. Do not challenge his malice. Let him continue to do the devil's work as he has long done, but ignore him. Do not feed his need to be worshipped.
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