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Should Max Mosley resign?
Dr E Vibenstein (You know it is, it really is.) Started conversation Apr 9, 2008
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/7339052.stm
Max Mosley's future as FIA president will be decided by a vote of confidence at the organisation's extraordinary general assembly on 3 June.
His position has been under threat after the News of the World newspaper claimed that Mosley took part in a "Nazi-style orgy in a torture dungeon"
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This means that his position is safe until at least June 3rd, some two months after the story broke, and yet he was asked not to attend last weekend's Bahrain Grand Prix because of the controversy. If he's too embarrassing to attend the GPs, how can he possibly keep his position for another two months?
Should Max Mosley resign?
me[Andy]g Posted Apr 9, 2008
I think maybe the issue was that that particular GP was in Bahrain, and that's why he didn't go...
But he should resign now anyway. I didn't realise until today that he was Oswald Mosley's son... he should resign just because of that IMO, but any other reason would be fine too
Should Max Mosley resign?
Dr E Vibenstein (You know it is, it really is.) Posted Apr 9, 2008
So why is he too embarrassing for Bahrain, but not for anywhere else? Germany, say?
Should Max Mosley resign?
T.B. Falsename ACE: [stercus venio] I have learned from my mistakes, and feel I could repeat them exactly. Posted Apr 9, 2008
Personally that fact that it was in The News of The World makes me assume it's not even remotely true as neither that paper, nor it's sister, The Sun, are good at dealing with facts.
I think he should have been gotten rid of after some of his decisions during the Schumacher years but this I think is irrelevant to his position.
Also it's more embarrassing in Bahrain than, say, Germany, as unlike in Bahrain you can pay to do that kind of stuff in Germany as well, in fact, as most of the rest of the world.
Should Max Mosley resign?
Reefgirl (Brunel Baby) Posted Apr 9, 2008
If he's still in power by the time of the German GP he may be asked to stay away, if too many countries ask him to stay away he might have to bow to the inevitable, if he's still in power, I can't see how he can survive this, he's upset too many people in the past and they could use this to finally get rid of him. He was asked to stay away from Bahrain because he might offend the Royal Family, then the Shiek himself wrote and asked him not to come, from what I can understand anyway
Should Max Mosley resign?
Al Johnston Posted Apr 10, 2008
As far as the facts go, he's denying that any of the activities were "Nazi-style" but not that they occurred.
As nothing actually illegal took place, he has a point in his defence, but if he's going to claim that what went on was entirely private, he should have taken more effective steps to keep it so.
Should Max Mosley resign?
aGuyCalledPaff Posted Apr 11, 2008
Personally, I think he was set-up. However, they say you can't con an honest man, so set-up or no set-up, he still did what he did (and doesn't deny it). His term in FIA presidency office is up soon anyway. This will certainly see that he doesn't run again, assuming he lasts that long.
Thing is, if he resigns now, who will take over?
Jean Todt has been distancing himself gradually from Ferrari, presumably to line himself up as FIA president, but surely this would be too soon for him?
Richard Parry-Jones stepped down from the Ford board last year and is definitely on the list of Mosley successors. You don't hear much about him though, so is he high profile enough?
Tony Purnell is FIA Tech Consultant, mostly dealing with F1. I'd love to see him in the job, but he's too good a choice so won't stand a chance.
Are there any other options, I wonder?
Paff
Should Max Mosley resign?
Reefgirl (Brunel Baby) Posted Apr 11, 2008
I've read about Jean Todt being groomed to take over, BUT, no matter how far he distances himself from Ferrari, the other teams will still be paranoid about his decisions, he's close to Max Mosley too which a lot of people are assuming is the reason for the FIA's 'Pro Ferrari stance' (I'm quoting last week's Autosport here) they're not going to really want another man who's close to Ferrari
Should Max Mosley resign?
T.B. Falsename ACE: [stercus venio] I have learned from my mistakes, and feel I could repeat them exactly. Posted Apr 25, 2008
I'd like to take this opportunity to say that I think Max Mosely does an excellent job and should stay in his current role for as long as he wants Further to this, he is clearly completely impartial with regard to decisions which may end up favouring one team over another.
Any views and opinions I may have expressed previously which appears to contradict the above were made whilst I was not in possession of all the relevant facts...specifically the fact that I appear to be related to him, on my mother's side.
Should Max Mosley resign?
Reefgirl (Brunel Baby) Posted Apr 28, 2008
Flicking through internet motorsport sites this weekend, I find Bernie has withdrawn his support for Max, he's got no hope now. More worrying is the fact he's putting his weight behind Jean Todt to replace Mosely
Should Max Mosley resign?
Reefgirl (Brunel Baby) Posted Apr 28, 2008
Todt has been groomed for years by Mosely to take over, according to what I've read all the teams (Bar one obviously) are up in arms because they think Ferrari will have an unfair advantage, so no change there then
Should Max Mosley resign?
Dr E Vibenstein (You know it is, it really is.) Posted Jun 3, 2008
Oh, what a surprise.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/7430939.stm
Should Max Mosley resign?
Reefgirl (Brunel Baby) Posted Jun 3, 2008
how the hell can he keep going if half the royal families and premier's don't want him in their countries
Should Max Mosley resign?
T.B. Falsename ACE: [stercus venio] I have learned from my mistakes, and feel I could repeat them exactly. Posted Jun 3, 2008
I'm more interested in what'll happen if the US pull out of the FIA after all the money Bernie's spent trying to knock Indicar off the top with F1, will there still be a US Grand-prix? Will F1 go back to Cuba if the yanks aren't involved? After all Cubans love their cars and bikes almost as much as the Italians and Cuban mechs can fix anything with household items, tin snips and a big hammer, hell they make Macgyver and the A-Team look like incompetent amateurs.
Should Max Mosley resign?
Dr E Vibenstein (You know it is, it really is.) Posted Jun 3, 2008
There isn't a US Grand Prix this year anyway, so knowing Bernie a Cuban GP is a distinct possibility.
Should Max Mosley resign?
Reefgirl (Brunel Baby) Posted Jun 3, 2008
It'll also be interesting to see how the German and Japanese members react, if they pull out and the funding and F1 teams go with them, there goes 70% of the grid
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Should Max Mosley resign?
- 1: Dr E Vibenstein (You know it is, it really is.) (Apr 9, 2008)
- 2: me[Andy]g (Apr 9, 2008)
- 3: Dr E Vibenstein (You know it is, it really is.) (Apr 9, 2008)
- 4: T.B. Falsename ACE: [stercus venio] I have learned from my mistakes, and feel I could repeat them exactly. (Apr 9, 2008)
- 5: Reefgirl (Brunel Baby) (Apr 9, 2008)
- 6: fords - number 1 all over heaven (Apr 9, 2008)
- 7: Al Johnston (Apr 10, 2008)
- 8: aGuyCalledPaff (Apr 11, 2008)
- 9: Dr E Vibenstein (You know it is, it really is.) (Apr 11, 2008)
- 10: Reefgirl (Brunel Baby) (Apr 11, 2008)
- 11: T.B. Falsename ACE: [stercus venio] I have learned from my mistakes, and feel I could repeat them exactly. (Apr 25, 2008)
- 12: Al Johnston (Apr 28, 2008)
- 13: Reefgirl (Brunel Baby) (Apr 28, 2008)
- 14: fords - number 1 all over heaven (Apr 28, 2008)
- 15: Reefgirl (Brunel Baby) (Apr 28, 2008)
- 16: Dr E Vibenstein (You know it is, it really is.) (Jun 3, 2008)
- 17: Reefgirl (Brunel Baby) (Jun 3, 2008)
- 18: T.B. Falsename ACE: [stercus venio] I have learned from my mistakes, and feel I could repeat them exactly. (Jun 3, 2008)
- 19: Dr E Vibenstein (You know it is, it really is.) (Jun 3, 2008)
- 20: Reefgirl (Brunel Baby) (Jun 3, 2008)
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