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Post 121

echomikeromeo

I'll see if I can manage to work it in when school starts again in the fall. I'm now so desperately curious that I *have* to find out.

smiley - dragon


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Post 122

R. Daneel Olivaw -- (User 201118) (Member FFFF, ARS, and DOS) ( -O- )

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Thanks, although come to think of it posting them was arguably impolite since it could qualify as bragging--although I think they were necesary and relevant to my point.

I don't know what year you are in high school, so good luck on the SATs and APs if you haven't already taken them all.


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If your school has some sort of option/requirement for a senior project, maybe you could get a teacher to OK it for that. It seems like some of these tests could be recreated on your own if using the website was impractical--probably most of them could.

I agree it would be an interesting study.


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Post 123

echomikeromeo

Senior exhibition... may as well try to make it interesting. smiley - rolleyes Well, I'm just finishing my freshman year, so no need to worry about that yet.

smiley - dragon


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Post 124

coffeeshaman

Me? I am a closet queer, so i refer to myself as gay, queer, or a closet queer. In fact, whenever gay is used as an insult, i think, "how close they are to the truth". For example, i had a friend who used a female alias online, who was called a man as an insult. You never notice.


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Post 125

HonestIago

The Gay Times here in the UK ran a very interesting 'Who are we?' issue exploring many of the issues relating to sexuality, unfortunately I can't seem to get a link to the articles in question.
One of the main articles was about how a gay person describes themself, what terms to they use and the term queer came up a lot which surprised me as I pretty much hate the term


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Post 126

Rising Tide

It is a useful term to indicate not-straight though, Iago.

For example, what do you call someone who sleeps with a transsexual? If they are a pre-op mtf or an ftm who has not had a phalloplasty then 'straight' really does not cover it, but neither does gay, or lesbian, or bisexual, or any of the other terminology around. We aren't even legitimately part of the LGBT community at all, just some sort of un-named and invisible hangers on, like 19th century women. At the last Pride I went to I only felt comfortable because I had a t-shirt explaining my position, and then I had to do it with reference to my partner: "It's ok" it said, "He's FtM".

Queer, as used in the UK at least, seems to be usefully all-encompassing, and though I tend to categorise myself as 'straight' (I am in a relationship with a man, right? And I am a woman, ok? So that must make me straight, mustn't it?) I am very aware when talking with straights who really are exclusively heterosexual that, actually, I am nowhere near as straight as they are or they think that I am.

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Post 127

azahar

*emerges from backlog*

Took the test - apparently I'm slightly more male than female.

Re: sports. Girls throwing underhand is what I remember from elementary school girl's baseball teams. I always played on mixed teams, we always threw overhand.

I do remember girl's volleyball at school, though have no idea what netball is.

Re: women running with their knees together - say what? This brings to mind Marilyn running in high heels to catch a train . . . I have always run kind of normally I think.

Re: being 100% heterosexual. I have to agree with echo that I don't think anyone really is (if they were able to see themselves outside their upbringing, social circles, etc). I've never had a sexual relationship with another woman but maybe this is just because I haven't met the 'right woman' yet? Heck, I dunno. For me it's not something I think about but neither do I find the concept threatening.

I put on and take off t-shirts in the manner that won't mess up my hair. So, arms in or out first, then gently ease my head through the neckline.

Re: sexual stereotyping in general. Well, it's like all stereotyping, just a short-hand thing some people use instead of seeing someone else as a person in their own right.

I think it unfortunate that we still consider heterosexuality to be the 'norm' these days. In the sense that others are somehow 'not normal' if they aren't. And yes, some homosexuals play up to the stereotypes for their own reasons. So? Lots of heterosexuals do the same.

For me a person's sexual inclination is not particularly interesting to me unless I happen to be sexually interested in them. Otherwise it's just one part of the many things that makes up who they are.


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coolibroxboy

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Post 129

Potholer

Az, there is a problem with many words embodying 'majority classification' in that they will often end up with some connotations of superiority, or, at least, the negative will end up with some associations with wrongness or inferiority.
I suppose 'uncommon' may be one of the less-judgemental words, which could even be taken as positive overall.


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Post 130

coffeeshaman

theres a gay times? Why am i learning this now?


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Post 131

echomikeromeo

There are many, and can be found for pretty much any area of any country. Even my town has its own! But for those of you who are Britishers, I understand that the Gay Times is the main LGBT publication.

smiley - dragon


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Post 132

Z

Indeed the Gay Times is the main gay magazine in the UK. It tends to cover things from a gay man's perspective but tends to include more of the polictial articles than things about half naked young men and interior design.

Diva does much the same for lesbians, and then there's Attiude, which is more of a Gay FHM, (lots of half naked young men), and On Our Backs which is American Lesbian porn.


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Post 133

Kerr_Avon - hunting stray apostrophes and gutting poorly parsed sentences

...and Pink Paper for the more 'serious' side of things (think The Daily Telegraph instead of News of the World). And Midland Zone (or whatever its calling itself these days) if you're in the Midlands.

smiley - ale


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Post 134

Z

Both The Pink Paper and Midlands Zone are given away free in Gay Bars. There used to be more of these papers that mainly contained contact ads in the days before Internet Dating Websites. In fact I seem to remember one called Boyz which contained naked men, contact adsd, chat line ads, and advertisments for escots: oh and TV lisitings.


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Post 135

Kerr_Avon - hunting stray apostrophes and gutting poorly parsed sentences

Boyz is the same as Midland Zone, that mag changes its name as often as I change my shirt.

smiley - ale


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Post 136

T.B. Falsename ACE: [stercus venio] I have learned from my mistakes, and feel I could repeat them exactly.

When you say TV listings....


smiley - cheers


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Post 137

Z

No it's a different magazine, I remember a time when they were both available.


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Post 138

Kerr_Avon - hunting stray apostrophes and gutting poorly parsed sentences

Oh, my mistake. I could've sworn that Boyz was one of the names Zone tried smiley - shrug. Still, you're doing something wrong in a gay bar if you've got time to read the free mags smiley - winkeye.

smiley - ale


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Post 139

Z

True! Though they're always useful if you're waiting to meet someone and are wondering whether or not they are going to arrive. I used to use the Birmingham Gay Scene as a sort of living room at one stage, I do remember spending an entire evening drinking in a bar with my housemates and no one else being there. It was a midweek night.


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Post 140

coffeeshaman

Im 14, so i would know how it is used. Somebody will say " more homework? Thats well gay."

Its used as crap, out of order, unfair, or in the degrading term. Calling someone gay is a hard insult, but you have to really resist the words " So What?"


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