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Atoms defying laws of quantum physics?!
Zugszwang Started conversation Jan 8, 2009
I'm Zugszwang the Glorious Spielzeug. What's up?
I recently heard that unlike whole objects, atoms can transfer from point a to point b simply because their possibility of existing there is in place, and that larger objects can't because the likelihood of them coming out of it in the exact same composition is impossible. I also heard that the atom's parts are changed in equal manners. Alchemy anyone? Isn't it insane to think an atom could transfer billions of lightyears away in a nanosecond? No, it's not fast. It just happened! It's INSANE!!!
What do you all think?
Atoms defying laws of quantum physics?!
Secretly Not Here Any More Posted Jan 8, 2009
I think either Ask H2G2 or ScienceExplained are the best places for this question. There's links to those forums on the frontpage in the "h2g2 community bookmarks" bit on the right hand bar.
And welcome to h2g2!
Atoms defying laws of quantum physics?!
Namflower Posted Feb 16, 2009
Unfortunately you are making the popular mistake that endless space has to be involved in any transfer of atoms. Transfers at local levels are more common than is generaly realised. Vampirism is an indication that small tranfers have taken place. The most startling, to some, is the change undergone by werewolves. There were several of the species in the Allendale district, near Hexham in Northumberland. An argument, by one too arrogant to accept mortality, with a train reduced numbers. I believe the last remaining specimen roams the area, and is often mistaken for 'a large black cat'.
Atoms defying laws of quantum physics?!
ddwwhh Posted Mar 25, 2009
Wasn't this idea esssenially established many years ago with the "Double Slit" experiment?
Atoms defying laws of quantum physics?!
BeccaPiano Posted Apr 16, 2009
I don't know, but I think that this 'quantum tunneling' you're referring to operates at a closer distance than light years, or even inches or millimeters. I believe I read that this 'quantum tunneling' is a facet of quantum behavior that allows our sun to shine! This is from 'layperson' reading, I'm a musician, not a physicist. -- John Gribbin's 'In Search of Schrodingers' Cat' is an excellent, if toothy, book on the subject of quantum physics. I also recommend "The Quantum Zoo: A tourist's Guide to the Neverending Universe" by Marcus Chown. Both books were illuminating, interesting, and readable. Not 'light' reading, in the sense that ANYTHING illustrating quantum physics is counter-intuitive and a little boggling, but both books did a good job, and both were very good writers for the task I think. Have fun -- BeccaPiano
Atoms defying laws of quantum physics?!
minitaur88 Posted Apr 26, 2009
this is not insane
this has been a study at a few universities and the theory has been proven in the terms of quantifying the speed of varoius atoms
in laymen's terms turning lead into gold or harnessing the speed of an atom depending on the atom used
Atoms defying laws of quantum physics?!
unverslprncpllaw Posted May 6, 2009
I'm Zugszwang the Glorious Spielzeug. What's up?
I recently heard that unlike whole objects, atoms can transfer from point a to point b simply because their possibility of existing there is in place, and that larger objects can't because the likelihood of them coming out of it in the exact same composition is impossible. I also heard that the atom's parts are changed in equal manners. Alchemy anyone? Isn't it insane to think an atom could transfer billions of lightyears away in a nanosecond? No, it's not fast. It just happened! It's INSANE!!!
What do you all think?
E=M(mc).where M(mc) represents ATOMS being transformed(transferred) from E-location( echo-location =M-sound wave of E-Light photon)to M-plane(mc)locale. As a result this equation while accommodating the seeming principle of "C2" in actuality the squaring of light is merely illusory, thus C-is representatively constant in the (refined-reconciliatory)equation....E=M(mc)"2". The possibility of ATOMS(IONS) "existing there" is as a result of the ever existential M= Ether...MERE ORE... always being ("to be") relative to the E= Photon. Thus what is "in place" is M relative to C(E). The composition of the photon is "expressed" differently when E is communicated to M=(mc). Thus the form, shape, geometry..."mass" of mc shares a profound affinity to E-Photon. The 'transference' over billions of light years...instantaneously... is a simple elemental Phenomenon ( though presently inferred to represent the squaring of the 'speed' of light). This Phenomenon when explained and elaborated upon (with its myriad implications and scientific application(s))will prove that the answers to everything have been "staring us in the face all along." These realities are implicit to taking a purely observational approach to physics and not an approach 'riddled' with plethoric 'theorizing" and such terminologies and jargon as to defy the logical.....the LUCID
Atoms defying laws of quantum physics?!
unverslprncpllaw Posted May 7, 2009
don't know, but I think that this 'quantum tunneling' you're referring to operates at a closer distance than light years, or even inches or millimeters. I believe I read that this 'quantum tunneling' is a facet of quantum behavior that allows our sun to shine! This is from 'layperson' reading, I'm a musician, not a physicist. -- John Gribbin's 'In Search of Schrodingers' Cat' is an excellent, if toothy, book on the subject of quantum physics. I also recommend "The Quantum Zoo: A tourist's Guide to the Neverending Universe" by Marcus Chown. Both books were illuminating, interesting, and readable. Not 'light' reading, in the sense that ANYTHING illustrating quantum physics is counter-intuitive and a little boggling, but both books did a good job, and both were very good writers for the task I think. Have fun -- BeccaPiano
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It is interesting that you use the expression "Quantum tunneling." Imagine if you will a string. The string has two ends. You- the "relative observer"..being as you are the one holding the string; you view this string as a tiny thin line held between the fingers of both hands. However lets alter the "relative" view to one as representative of a microscopic organism living inside the string. Now imagine that the string is in reality a hollow TUBE(tunnel. From this perspective the one end of the tunnel(tube=macro-perspective verses string+ micro-perspective) represents the E in the equation E=M(mc)"2". The other end of the 'hollow' string represents M=(mc"2". They are relative to each other due to being part of the whole of the tube. The tube represents a 'light cone' ORIGINATING left of the =(eq-wall) sign; this relative to the equation. The light/energy of E is free and open (non-hollow/tunnel)and travels uninhibited until colliding with the singularity(M) surface. When this occurs the 'light cone' is born thus locking the one end( E-photon) to the "other end" (mc"2" as to E)). Thus a relativity of E-mc results and is maintained. At this point the light energy of E that was formally unrestrained flowing of light has now been "captured' at a particular location in space time( actually M-surface/thickness). However though this 'locking mechanism' represents two ends of a "string" they are demonstratively sharing the "same place in space time"; this regardless of being separated by either an inch or billions of light years. If they (E and M=(mc)) are relatively one inch apart the mc organism is approaching its "assimilation into the whole of E, though formally sharing a dual relationship. If they are billions of light years away from each other ( E separated from M=(mc)) then they ,though sharing a duality, are remotely ready for any "potential" conversion of mc to E. E does not ever fully convert to mc, rather in light/energy vestige is communicated to M-plane=(mc). As well if 'they' share a duality while being separated by a "huge chasm" then the mc organism will be "very large" or "masseous". Thus closeness of E-mc= mc approaching E-conversion. The farther away mc is from E the more remote(distantially) the conversion of mc to E is. The "quantum tunneling can represent either a small sting(inches away from each other) or a huge string( billions of light years. The size of the string(light cone- tunnel)is inconsequential provided that M-plane is large enough(plethoric enough) to accommodate the size or "volume" of the light energy being communicated to its surface/thickness.
Atoms defying laws of quantum physics?!
unverslprncpllaw Posted May 7, 2009
I am new to this forum. Inquiry: How can i (or can i) post pictures to illustrate my postulates?
Atoms defying laws of quantum physics?!
keicelt Posted Jun 9, 2009
it could be just a dream you know ?
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- 2: Secretly Not Here Any More (Jan 8, 2009)
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- 4: Namflower (Feb 16, 2009)
- 5: ddwwhh (Mar 25, 2009)
- 6: BeccaPiano (Apr 16, 2009)
- 7: minitaur88 (Apr 26, 2009)
- 8: unverslprncpllaw (May 6, 2009)
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