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abbi normal "Putting on the Ritz" with Dr Frankenstein

Frank Bidart - poem ;The Arc
"I tell myself: 'Insanity is the insistence on meaning.' "


That unreasonable insistence seems to rise like an involuntary cry when we step into the landscape of loss.
He is speaking of grief here.
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/09/books/review/09pinsky.html
This one scientists perspective on Science and grief.

"Nor can we know ahead of the fact (and here lies the heart of the difference between grief as we imagine it and grief as it is) the unending absence that follows, the void, the very opposite of meaning, the relentless succession of moments during which we will confront the experience of meaninglessness itself."

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Feeling meaningless.

Stephen Hawking's announcement that he was wrong 30 years earlier to say that information swallowed by a black hole could never be retrieved. The Times reported this change of mind in 2004 as significant smiley - disco it preserves science's ability to "run the proverbial film backward and reconstruct what happened in, say, the collision of two cars or the collapse of a dead star into a black hole."

Didion (another book discussed in article) arrives at the difference between the will of "the insistence on meaning" and the will of reconstruction for the sake of progress, be it grief or science.

Hmm this post may only make sense to me at this moment in time!
That is why it is in my journalsmiley - winkeye




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Ellen

Not sure I understand about the black hole stuff Abbi, but I can identify with the emotion right now. Things are hard at the moment.


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zendevil


Yup; me too, feel like the black hole, whatever it might be, is sucking me in rather.

This earthquake is depressing me beyond belief, how many disasters have we had this year? It seems like there is no end to catastrophe.

smiley - sadface

zdt


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pheloxi | is it time to wear a hat? |

blackholes are something to put your bad mood in! smiley - smiley




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abbi normal "Putting on the Ritz" with Dr Frankenstein

Good one Pheloxismiley - biggrin

I have a relaxation tape that has you put them in a box with a string to let them go for a while.

Some can definitely go into the black hole. At least that energy would be put to good use! I miss that a lot> Being able to burn off bad feelings by burning off excess energy smiley - magic being very physical,usually cleaning.
*momentary whine - done now*


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Prof Animal Chaos.C.E.O..err! C.E.Idiot of H2G2 Fools Guild (Official).... A recipient of S.F.L and S.S.J.A.D.D...plus...S.N.A.F.U.

I have a box on my p/space for bad vibes


never believe in them myself, to busy living and being daftsmiley - smiley


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websailor

Thanks, Animal you are such a tonic smiley - biggrin

Websailorsmiley - dragon


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Prof Animal Chaos.C.E.O..err! C.E.Idiot of H2G2 Fools Guild (Official).... A recipient of S.F.L and S.S.J.A.D.D...plus...S.N.A.F.U.

don't like any friend to be down and I'll do anything to cheer them upsmiley - smooch


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zendevil


Just send me a nice pair of Nubian slaves & i will be immensely cheered up. Honestly, they will have a good home, plenty of oiling whenever necessary, nice new loincloths & ostrich feathers, turbans, dancing girls in the harem, whatever.

But in return they walk the smiley - dog & give me a massage whenever i demand it.I don't ask for much.

zdt


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Ellen

smiley - laughsmiley - laughsmiley - laugh


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Prof Animal Chaos.C.E.O..err! C.E.Idiot of H2G2 Fools Guild (Official).... A recipient of S.F.L and S.S.J.A.D.D...plus...S.N.A.F.U.

some people have all the luck, all I get is a blow up doll with leaks and a can of WD40smiley - sadface


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