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The idiotic decision to sack Angus Deayton
Fraeya Posted Dec 23, 2002
me2 will you stop going on and on on the same subject your not always right you know.
The idiotic decision to sack Angus Deayton
DJR Posted Dec 23, 2002
stuart,
if your as old as her grand-dad then that would explain your ancient attitude towards this... (no offence to lizzy's grand-dad there)
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Stuart Posted Dec 24, 2002
The difference betweeen the wisodm of age and ignorance of youth!
Stuart
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Thin Lizzy Posted Dec 29, 2002
I think I ought to point out, however, that age and maturity are by no means the same thing; likewise, wisdom does not always come with age. There are some older people I know that attempt to be experts on what they know nothing about. I'm accusing nobody of such things now, but somebody I knew hated Queen(My fave band), calling them talentless nobodies. Conveniently, they heard me play "Bohemian Rhapsody", and asked me who wrote it, as it was one of the most interesting pieces of songwriting he had ever heard. As soon as he found out they suddenly found a great many faults about it!
The idiotic decision to sack Angus Deayton
Stuart Posted Dec 29, 2002
"wisdom does not always come with age"
Very true. There are some that will never gain wisdom. But one thing is true and that is wisdom never gained without age.
Incidentally, I do like Bohemian Rhapsody. It is a classic of its time. Have your ever heard it played by a full orchestra? It is then that you begin to appreciate the beauty of the piece.
Stuart
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Thin Lizzy Posted Dec 30, 2002
No, I have never heard it orchestrally. I regard it as being beautiful enough in its original form. I'll see if I can get hold of the orchestral recording sometime. Queen did some orchestral work in any case-"Who Wants to live Forever", for instance.
"Wisdom is never gained without age".
I must ask the othersnot ton faint at what I say next...
I agree.
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DJR Posted Dec 30, 2002
okay, wisdom does not always come with age, so obviously a little wisdom from a little age IS MORE WISDOM that no wisdom.
(the latter possibly being you, Stu!)
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Stuart Posted Dec 30, 2002
I'll treat that remark with the contempt it deserves.
Stuart
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R2D2 Posted Jan 1, 2003
Hey guys, "Balance of probabilities" (i.e. civil court stuff) vs "beyond a reasonable doubt" (i.e. criminal charges) is known even to the layman.
Angus has not pursued the civil so far, no doubt because of the evidence the press has on him. As to the latter - well, that's up to the police and the CPS...
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Stuart Posted Jan 1, 2003
Precisely the point I was making. A few people posting in this thread and others on the same subject have either chose to ignore it or where not aware of it in the first place.
Stuart
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DJR Posted Jan 1, 2003
of course we're aware of it, but we're not posting to discuss whether he's guilty or not, we're posting because WE DON'T CARE. we're posting because we want him to present HIGNFY again, because he is the best there is to do it. guilty or not, he is still the best person to present the show. period.
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Stuart Posted Jan 1, 2003
Well, I'm sorry for you Deano. If you think that being funny is an excuse to do whatever you want without any consideration for the consequences you have a lot to learn. There is far more to life than "having a laugh".
Stuart
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DJR Posted Jan 2, 2003
bloody hell stuart you are so unilateral.
of course its wrong to do stuff blah blah blah, and thats true. But that's not what the point is. The point is that people accept he has done something wrong, and accept that he is a stupid plonker for doing so, but the REGARDLESS WANT HIM BACK.
and no, that does not mean we want people who have commited crimes to go free or whatever else you want to twist the above to mean. All i am saying is that if he is go down, then bring him back to present the show. The rest a rejects, and they'd be in his shadow. He's done something wrong, no doubt he regrets it, and he's not been prosecuted. WHAT'S WRONG WITH HIM PRESENTING A TV PROGRAMME?
The idiotic decision to sack Angus Deayton
Stuart Posted Jan 2, 2003
You said you dont care. Fortunately you are in a minority. The majority of people in this country do care when a public figure gets involved with dangerous drugs like cocaine and thank God for that.
Angus is an itelligent person, knew the risks when he got involved, now he must accept the consquences. Whether he has been prosecuted or not is irelevant for reasons previously stated.
Think what kind of message it sends when you can do these things with impunity. A TV presenter can have an influence on other people, especially impressionable young people, so he had to go. Perhaps with time Angus may be rehabilitated. But before then he is going to have to prove that he is not doing cocaine any more.
Stuart
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DJR Posted Jan 2, 2003
i accept that you last post is quite true... it seems like we've been dominating this subject a bit doesn't it!
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Stuart Posted Jan 2, 2003
Just a little! But it has been interesting.
Stuart
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Researcher 213737 Posted Jan 4, 2003
I understand the reason that Angus Deayton could not continue. If you saw the last round with Christine Hamilton your may start to understand why.
The chairperson of such a show needs to be above a certain level of reproach. He cannot be see as "tossing the muck" at celebrities without much of the recording time being spent by simple exchange of insults, this would also affect the final result of the edit terminally.
Without knowing all conversations between the 'normal' participants, I think that the outright support (for the reasons given above) would be the nail in the coffin of an excellent show - that when it comes down to it is a quiz masqurading as a skit show - which I believe to be a great shame.
I do not wish Angus any ill will, nor do I condone his behaviour, but unfortunately HE has put himself in an untenable situation, and must bear the the brunt of his decisions.
My current selection, having seen their current candidates, would be Jeremy Clarkson - he has is own "attitude" and the BBC appear to have been looking for a vehicle for his 'personality' (oppionated and forthright), such as his diabolicle chat show.
I dearly hope to see Angus Deayton working again, he is a good commedic writer, and I believe will be seen (heard) regularly on Radio 4/7, and hopefully in the late 2003 season or 2004 season make a re-appearance on HIGNFY.
I again re-iterate, the programme would have died, in my opinion, quite quickly with his continued involvement - even a behind camera role.
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Fraeya Posted Jan 4, 2003
and mine he goes on and on and on and on and on etc as well
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