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terminologies (kiwifruit)
kea ~ Far out in the uncharted backwaters of the unfashionable end of the western spiral arm of the Galaxy lies a small, unregarded but very well read blue and white website Started conversation May 11, 2006
Hi Opti Interesting entry!
Just in case I miss this going through PR, I wanted to make a few suggestions:
'Kiwi' is a New Zealand Maori word meaning a native bird, or, colloquially, a New Zealander. The fruit you are writing about is called a 'kiwifruit' here and this name came about because of some clever marketing fellows in NZ who decided we couldn't sell 'Chinese Gooseberries' to the world.
'Chinese Gooseberry' was a generic name in NZ for all Actinidia chinensis fruits. It wasn't a name for a specific variety.
The name 'kiwifruit' was adopted fairly recently, off the top of my head I'd say in the 80s (we had a big kiwifruit boom here then) - at least common usage in NZ started then (the name may have been used in horticulture earlier). My understanding is that the term 'kiwi' used in the US was a result of that marketing strategy not that the US named the fruit after a NZ bird. I"d be interested to know which is true and what the source of the idea that the US named the fruit after the bird is.
Personally I, and many New Zealanders, find it very weird reading something like "Kiwis are not known to have many pests and diseases which affect them" because 'kiwi' in that sentence would be read as the bird. Ditto 'Kiwi margarita'
As an aside to that:
>>Kiwis are not known to have many pests and diseases which affect them. Possibly due to the fact very few are planted.<<
Kiwifruit in NZ are well known for requiring very little pesticide intervention. There is a large certified organic kiwifruit industry here because of this. In fact I have a feeling the whole industry was looking at going organic.
kea.
terminologies (kiwifruit)
kea ~ Far out in the uncharted backwaters of the unfashionable end of the western spiral arm of the Galaxy lies a small, unregarded but very well read blue and white website Posted May 11, 2006
terminologies (kiwifruit)
six7s Posted May 12, 2006
Yep, what she said
Kiwi = the bird (Apteryx), our national symbol
Most of us Pakeha call ourselves Kiwis
Our dollar is 'the Kiwi'
'The Kiwis' are our national rugby LEAGUE (not Union) football team
The fruit, native to China - first commercially cultivated here for international trade - is the kiwifruit.
One word, 9 letters, no hyphen, singular and plural - like
And yep... I know they're called 'kiwis' ALL around the (English speaking) world BUT the world is wrong and we are right
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Apart from that wee rant... Cheers Opti! Great effort! Hope I don't sound bossy...
Of course, if you do edit accordingly (please do), then quite a few of your sentences will need a bit of re-jigging...
One suggestion... if you're going to mention the pips, I reckon it would be fitting to say that they're completely edible - they're pretty much the same texture as the surrounding flesh... no-one I know would dream of de-seeding a kiwifruit
Ooh! One more! I know the BBC frowns on commercial stuff, but something (brief) on the story behind the 'Zespri' brand name might be a worthwhile addition... just a thought
terminologies (kiwifruit)
kea ~ Far out in the uncharted backwaters of the unfashionable end of the western spiral arm of the Galaxy lies a small, unregarded but very well read blue and white website Posted May 12, 2006
Also the plant here gets called a 'kiwifruit vine'.
The concise oxford dictionary calls it the kiwi fruit rather than the kiwifruit. What do you reckon the usual spelling is in NZ, six7s?
terminologies (kiwifruit)
six7s Posted May 12, 2006
Google and I say kiwifruit is more common, here in NZ
903,000 hits for << "kiwifruit" nz >>
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&as_qdr=all&q=kiwifruit+nz&btnG=Search
113,000 hits for << "kiwi fruit" nz >>
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&as_qdr=all&q=%22kiwi+fruit%22+nz&btnG=Search
terminologies (kiwifruit)
kea ~ Far out in the uncharted backwaters of the unfashionable end of the western spiral arm of the Galaxy lies a small, unregarded but very well read blue and white website Posted May 12, 2006
It's more common in general too:
1,620,000 for kiwifruit
http://www.google.co.nz/search?hl=en&q=kiwifruit&btnG=Google+Search&meta=
631,000 for "kiwi fruit"
http://www.google.co.nz/search?hl=en&q=%22kiwi+fruit%22&btnG=Search&meta=
terminologies (kiwifruit)
kea ~ Far out in the uncharted backwaters of the unfashionable end of the western spiral arm of the Galaxy lies a small, unregarded but very well read blue and white website Posted May 14, 2006
To keep the dicussion all in one place, I've reposted my comments in the Writing Workshop thread F57153?thread=2980036
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terminologies (kiwifruit)
- 1: kea ~ Far out in the uncharted backwaters of the unfashionable end of the western spiral arm of the Galaxy lies a small, unregarded but very well read blue and white website (May 11, 2006)
- 2: kea ~ Far out in the uncharted backwaters of the unfashionable end of the western spiral arm of the Galaxy lies a small, unregarded but very well read blue and white website (May 11, 2006)
- 3: six7s (May 12, 2006)
- 4: kea ~ Far out in the uncharted backwaters of the unfashionable end of the western spiral arm of the Galaxy lies a small, unregarded but very well read blue and white website (May 12, 2006)
- 5: six7s (May 12, 2006)
- 6: kea ~ Far out in the uncharted backwaters of the unfashionable end of the western spiral arm of the Galaxy lies a small, unregarded but very well read blue and white website (May 12, 2006)
- 7: kea ~ Far out in the uncharted backwaters of the unfashionable end of the western spiral arm of the Galaxy lies a small, unregarded but very well read blue and white website (May 14, 2006)
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