A Conversation for The Emperor's New Theory
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manwiththemasterplan Started conversation Aug 25, 2006
Some of the 'ENT's you state sound quite reasonable, in whole or in part.
"Relativity and quantum mechanics are wrong..." - This all sounds a lot like string theory (or M-theory now), which as I understand it is making good progress in describing the universe. And I think at least one of relativity and quantum mechanics have to be wrong anyway, since they mutually contradict each other about the nature of space at the Planck level.
"Life did not evolve. It was designed." - That complex things arise from design is certainly an obvious enough principle, confirmed by everyday observation. Evolution isn't really an adequate theory to explain the beginning of life anyway, since it concerns the arisal of one form of living organism from another, and can only apply once life already exists. When you do some research into how complicated a single living cell is, which would have had nothing to evolve from, then you can see that even that needs a lot of designing.
"Time goes at different speeds on different planets, gravity doesn't exist" - Isn't this stated by general relativity theory, which explains gravity as an illusion caused by the warping of space-time? Although the theory itself may be wrong, that time goes more slowly in a gravitational field (such as on a planet, and the effect would be different for different planets) has been experimentally confirmed.
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Kiteman Posted Aug 25, 2006
You need to know the context & the posters on the S&N boards.
The first example, "jck200", makes up random statements and claims they are logical extensions of his "perfect solution" to the ToE. His claims are often self-contradictory, and always pure nonsense. He does not even understand what a theory is, and has declared that his perfect solution cannot account for tides.
The second is held by several Creationists & IDists, none of whom have been able to provide evidence for their claims. The whole logic ("I don't know how it was done, so God did it") can be equally applied to building the PC you are looking at right now.
The different passages of time are due to gravity (aka spacetime distortions). This poster claims gravity does not exist. His idea about time is based on the length of their orbits - he honestly believes that if you spend one orbit on the Earth, and one orbit on Pluto, you will age by one year in either place.
In other words, all of these theories are wrong. Some are delusions, some are based on wilful ignorance, and others are deliberate lies designed to disrupt other peoples' threads, but they are all wrong. They have all been subject to fine scrutiny on the science boards, and even though the holes, fallacies, inconsistancies and internal contradictions have been held up for all to see, the perpetrators (the "Emperors") still post their stuff.
Visit the boards ( http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/mbsn ), and see what these people actually say, and then try passing judgement. Check out their post-histories to see their actual words:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/brunel/U1712240
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/brunel/U2147534
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/brunel/U2660090
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/brunel/U4353955
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/brunel/U1736044
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/brunel/U2136774
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/brunel/U2289488
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/brunel/U3375939
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