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Peer Review: A87913821 - Arts of the Roman Antiquity - naturalism and idealism
Tavaron da Quirm - Arts Editor Started conversation Jul 28, 2018
Entry: Arts of the Roman Antiquity - naturalism and idealism - A87913821
Author: Tavaron da Quirm - Arts Editor - U1314679
My 2nd Entry on arts history.
A87913821 - Arts of the Roman Antiquity - naturalism and idealism
Dmitri Gheorgheni, Post Editor Posted Jul 28, 2018
This is also great! I don't know as much about Roman art as Greek art, and I learned things, such as the development of funerary art depicting middle-class accomplishments. That is fascinating! Can you imagine people doing it today? Oh, wait....we don't have to. It's the PowerPoint slides they show at funerals....
>>served the architecture.<<
Do you mean 'served to enhance the architecture'? Or maybe 'served a decorative function'?
Senat = Senate
>>The Romans regarded Greek sculptures as perfect and therefore no further improvement in style was necessary.<<
Perfect - I love this sentence!
epoches = epochs
>>ethnical problems with plundering now Roman areas<<
I'm guessing you mean 'ethical problems with plundering now-Roman areas'
equestarian statues = equestrian statues
>>sarcophagos made in a Greek style<<
I'd either say, 'the sarcophagus' or 'sarcophagi', which is the plural - and I had to look it up. I wanted to spell it in Greek.
Pompejian - Pompeiian (I checked. With one 'i', it's an olive oil company from Baltimore.)
A87913821 - Arts of the Roman Antiquity - naturalism and idealism
Tavaron da Quirm - Arts Editor Posted Jul 29, 2018
Thank you! I made all these changes.
There's a nice picture in one of my books of a gravestone: a monument with a large crane (one of those with a hamster wheel for people). Someone's looking out of a door at the bottom and at the top of the monument lies the deceased in a bed with pillows and curtains and seems to look at the crane approvingly. Seems like his children play next to his bed. A very lively scene.
A87913821 - Arts of the Roman Antiquity - naturalism and idealism
Dmitri Gheorgheni, Post Editor Posted Jul 29, 2018
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Florida Sailor All is well with the world Posted Jul 29, 2018
Very interesting, and I will read again - one small point;
>>The style of these images was adaped to local tastes depending on where they were put up. Idealised portraits of the emperor were put up throughout the Roman empire
The term 'put up' would read much better as 'erected'
F S
A87913821 - Arts of the Roman Antiquity - naturalism and idealism
Tavaron da Quirm - Arts Editor Posted Jul 29, 2018
Thank you!
Isn't 'erected' rather a word for something big? I would erect a building but (in my feeling) I wouldn't erect a portrait head. A large statue maybe yes.
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Florida Sailor All is well with the world Posted Jul 29, 2018
Erect simply means 'to put upright' http://dictionary.reverso.net/english-definition/erect+a+statue It is quite appropriate for a statue
F S
A87913821 - Arts of the Roman Antiquity - naturalism and idealism
Dmitri Gheorgheni, Post Editor Posted Jul 29, 2018
I think Tavaron is right - it won't work everywhere here.
May I suggest?
>>Just like the Greeks, Romans liked to put up marble and bronze statues at public places.<<
Just like the Greeks, Romans liked to install marble and bronze statues in public places.
>>Portraits put up in public were a way for politicians and other members of the upper classes to gain attention.<<
Public likenesses were.... (Avoids the whole problem.)
>>Later, the emperors also put up statues of gods in public places...<<
Later, the emperors also set up statues....
>>The style of these images was adaped to local tastes depending on where they were put up.<<
The style of these images was adapted to local tastes. (Don't need the rest.)
>>Idealised portraits of the emperor were put up throughout the Roman empire...<<
Idealised representations (busts?) of the emperor appeared throughout the Roman Empire, and....
A87913821 - Arts of the Roman Antiquity - naturalism and idealism
Tavaron da Quirm - Arts Editor Posted Jul 29, 2018
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bobstafford Posted Jul 29, 2018
May I suggest?
>>Following the Greek tradition, eminent Romans liked to put up marble and bronze statues at public places. This was to enhance their reputations and political status.<<
A87913821 - Arts of the Roman Antiquity - naturalism and idealism
Dmitri Gheorgheni, Post Editor Posted Jul 29, 2018
A87913821 - Arts of the Roman Antiquity - naturalism and idealism
Tavaron da Quirm - Arts Editor Posted Jul 29, 2018
I really like your 2nd sentence but not sure about the 1st. I think the Greeks had different reasons to put up statues.
A87913821 - Arts of the Roman Antiquity - naturalism and idealism
bobstafford Posted Jul 29, 2018
Excellent entry Tav
Is this better
>>Following the Greek tradition, eminent Romans liked to put up marble and bronze statues at public places. However the Roman motive was to enhance their reputations and political status.<<
A87913821 - Arts of the Roman Antiquity - naturalism and idealism
Tavaron da Quirm - Arts Editor Posted Jul 29, 2018
No, what I mean is that I think you can't say they followed the Greek tradition.
A87913821 - Arts of the Roman Antiquity - naturalism and idealism
Dmitri Gheorgheni, Post Editor Posted Jul 29, 2018
Aha! Then stick to 'Just like the Greeks, etc'
A87913821 - Arts of the Roman Antiquity - naturalism and idealism
Tavaron da Quirm - Arts Editor Posted Jul 29, 2018
A87913821 - Arts of the Roman Antiquity - naturalism and idealism
SashaQ - happysad Posted Jul 30, 2018
I also learned a lot from this
I had some questions as I read through:
"served the architecture" - I agree with Dmitri that this needs a bit more explanation.
"At about 510 BC the Etruscan kings were cast out" - could you say a little more about the Etruscans to clarify this sentence, please?
" Karthago" - Carthage?
" the 3rd Century" - I'm not quite clear about the timeline here - is that the 3rd Century BC?
" walls are parted into horizontal as well as vertical zones" - I think that should be " walls are divided into vertical as well as horizontal zones"
Excellent concluding paragraphs
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Dmitri Gheorgheni, Post Editor Posted Jul 30, 2018
'carthago delenda est' - I agree, change to 'Carthage'.
That Roman saying made me think of my dad. He attended high school in Sparta (Tennessee). They sometimes played Carthage in football. Dad was a quarterback, which means nothing to Europeans... I always thought that 'Carthago delenda est' would have made a good football cheer....
Al Gore is from Carthage, Tennessee...
Shutting up now....
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Tavaron da Quirm - Arts Editor Posted Jul 30, 2018
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Tavaron da Quirm - Arts Editor Posted Aug 9, 2018
Ok, I tried to make it clearer without adding too much.
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Peer Review: A87913821 - Arts of the Roman Antiquity - naturalism and idealism
- 1: Tavaron da Quirm - Arts Editor (Jul 28, 2018)
- 2: Dmitri Gheorgheni, Post Editor (Jul 28, 2018)
- 3: Tavaron da Quirm - Arts Editor (Jul 29, 2018)
- 4: Dmitri Gheorgheni, Post Editor (Jul 29, 2018)
- 5: Florida Sailor All is well with the world (Jul 29, 2018)
- 6: Tavaron da Quirm - Arts Editor (Jul 29, 2018)
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- 8: Dmitri Gheorgheni, Post Editor (Jul 29, 2018)
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