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Dmitri Gheorgheni, Post Editor Started conversation Apr 1, 2016
Entry: The Tootsie Roll Battle and the Chosin Few - A87870036
Author: Dmitri Gheorgheni - U1590784
Since the Guide Editors have added a category for 'Snack Food', I thought you should have another snack-food-related entry.
This one's hard to believe. Could we say,'Only on Planet Earth?'
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Florida Sailor All is well with the world Posted Apr 2, 2016
Another great Entry. Could you include an explanation of the name 'Chosin'? Is it the same as the Chinese / Korean definition?
I like the irony that it sounds almost the same as 'chosen'
Now I want a tootsie roll
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Dmitri Gheorgheni, Post Editor Posted Apr 2, 2016
Hi, FS, thanks.
I can't explain the name - it's just the Japanese name of the reservoir. And I don't know anything about Japanese or Korean linguistics.
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Dmitri Gheorgheni, Post Editor Posted Apr 2, 2016
I reworded that to make it clear that Chosin is the Japanese name for the reservoir - sorry I couldn't do more than that.
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Florida Sailor All is well with the world Posted Apr 2, 2016
That's fine Dmitri, that was why I phrased it in the form of a question. I thought it might have been in some of your support documents.
I love learning the origin of names. We have a local river named the 'Pithlachascotee', it was only recently I found out it means 'The place where they make canoes' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pithlachascotee_River
Most of us locals just call it the 'cotie'
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Dmitri Gheorgheni, Post Editor Posted Apr 2, 2016
American Indian toponymy is great. I enjoy Punxsutawney, which means 'village of the biting sandflies'. There's even a ridiculous legend to go with it, which I suspect was made up by the Lenape as a joke.
Monongahela is well-named: it means 'falling banks'. Sometimes, knowing these things can be useful...sort of like travel advisories...
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minorvogonpoet Posted Apr 2, 2016
This is a great junk food story - to go with your entry on cheese puffs!
One stupid question. What are C-rations?
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Dmitri Gheorgheni, Post Editor Posted Apr 2, 2016
C-rations are the World War II and Korean War version of what are now called MREs: Meals Ready to Eat.
Only back then, they actually had to cook them. Today, I believe, they are self-heating.
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bobstafford Posted Apr 2, 2016
So The K-rations WWII were just ingredients then, interesting
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Dmitri Gheorgheni, Post Editor Posted Apr 2, 2016
No, I think they could eat most of them without cooking - but I think cold pork and beans sounds pretty unpalatable. The packages also had things in them like cigarettes, chewing gum (that sine qua non of the US military), coffee, sugar, candy, and toilet paper.
Here's something on them:
http://www.usarmymodels.com/ARTICLES/Rations/crations.html
The main problem with them in the extreme cold of Korea was that the cans would freeze.
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Florida Sailor All is well with the world Posted Apr 2, 2016
I believe the 'c' in c-rations was an abbreviation of canned. They had a main course, vegetable, fruit, instant coffee, a heating block, candy and a small package of cigarettes (3 or 4 as I recall).
We had them as emergency rations when I was working on an island we were turning into a state park. I won't tell which was the favourite part for teenage boys
There were 'k-rations' that came in boxes for a brief period before the foil wrapped MRE's they use today.
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Dmitri Gheorgheni, Post Editor Posted Apr 2, 2016
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bobstafford Posted Apr 2, 2016
Baked beans eaten cold were a favourite with many. In WWII in Europe, the US army corps often shared their rations with UK troops, cold beans straight from the tin were a firm favourite.
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Dmitri Gheorgheni, Post Editor Posted Apr 2, 2016
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Bluebottle Posted Apr 19, 2016
I've had a read through and realised that you don't mention the direction they retreated, I mean 'attacked in a different direction' in. I assume it was south or southeast?
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Dmitri Gheorgheni, Post Editor Posted Apr 19, 2016
I assume so, too, but I didn't think it was important...to the tootsie roll story, that is. Obviously, it was important to the Marines.
Nobody else seems to think it's important enough to say, either. Look at the Britannica article:
http://www.britannica.com/event/Battle-of-the-Chosin-Reservoir
Of course, they have maps...
I just said 'to the sea', which I thought made it clear what you needed to know. This source merely says 'to the Sea of Japan'.
http://www.homeofheroes.com/brotherhood/chosin.html
But on that map, it's also clearly SE. Do you think it's important enough to mention?
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Bluebottle Posted Apr 19, 2016
Korea's a squiggly peninsular – in places you can reach the sea (whether Yellow, East China or Japan) if you go north, south, east or west.
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