A Conversation for Zetans: The UFO Legend and Betty Hill's Star Map

A87825801 - Zeta Reticuli - Binary Stars and UFO Legend

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Gnomon - time to move on

No tinfoil hat theory is really complete without a mention in the Fortean Times.


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Post 22

Galaxy Babe - eclectic editor

Entry: Zeta Reticuli - Binary Stars and UFO Legend - A87825801
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I could provide a fuller list of the TV programmes that Betty & Barney Hill/Marjorie Fish/Grey aliens have featured in if required.

GB
smiley - galaxysmiley - diva


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Post 23

Galaxy Babe - eclectic editor

I've managed to link to Elvis, Star Trek and Ant & Dec now, too. smiley - smiley

GB
smiley - galaxysmiley - diva


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Post 24

Gnomon - time to move on

I made a list of a few suggestions, then went to lunch, then deleted the list thinking I'd already posted it.smiley - sadface


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Post 25

Gnomon - time to move on

Two big points:

Carl Sagan did more than just suggest that the abduction experience was a hallucination. He also said that the map 'evidence' was probably a result of coincidence.

I'd say:

suggested that the original encounter had been a hallucination, and that the apparent correspondance between Betty's map and the stars around the zeta Reticuli system was just due to chance. Given a big enough collecction of stars, there's always an apparent match to almost any pattern.

Should the quote from Stanton Friedman be moved to just after the UFO Encounter heading? It really is very much about the possibility of life and alien visitations from zeta Reticuli.

A problem of fact:

"proposed that the star map began from zeta2 Reticuli"

" the theory that the stars matched a route from zeta1 Reticuli collapsed"

-- was it zeta1 or zeta2?

Some word choice and punctuation suggestions:

the Cape of Good Hope --> the Cape of Good Hope in South Africa

she attempted many scenarios --> she explored many scenarios

the star map began from zeta2 Reticuli --> the star map showed a journey from star to star beginning at zeta2 Reticuli

Cosmologist Carl Sagan5 a proponent -- add a comma after the footnote

a celebrity among Ufologists, she continued to talk -- change the comma to a semicolon

smiley - smiley


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Galaxy Babe - eclectic editor

smiley - okThanks very much Gnomon, I've fixed all thosesmiley - biro except for:

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A problem of fact:

"proposed that the star map began from zeta2 Reticuli"

" the theory that the stars matched a route from zeta1 Reticuli collapsed"

-- was it zeta1 or zeta2?

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smiley - galaxyI have checked a few sources of the map, your link to the Armagh Planetarium begins the map at zeta 1: http://www.armaghplanet.com/blog/betty-hills-ufo-star-map-the-truth.html
but the Wikipedia file shows the same map with the stars reversed: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Zeta_reticuli.svg

so I'll have to keep lookingsmiley - run


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Post 27

Gnomon - time to move on

I found what appears to be Marjorie Fish's original sketch, but it has arrows pointing to both stars from the phrase zeta ret 1+2, which doesn't say which I ax which.


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Post 28

Gnomon - time to move on

I'd fudge it by saying "from the zeta Retuculi system" each time.


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Post 29

Galaxy Babe - eclectic editor

smiley - okand donesmiley - biro

GB
smiley - galaxysmiley - diva


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pailaway - (an utterly gratuitous link in the evolutionary chain)

What tinfoil hat alien abduction story is complete without reference to Elvis smiley - ok

(for that matter, what entry of any kind is complete without same?)

Very good - and I see that after all, it does address all of Gnomon's points in post 18.

I really have nothing constructive to add at the moment. I'll read it again tomorrow and see if anything else occurs to me, but it sure seems in good shape.smiley - cool


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Post 31

Gnomon - time to move on

The only thing I can think of to add to it is some song lyrics from Muse at the top.

http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/muse/exopolitics.html


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Post 32

Galaxy Babe - eclectic editor

Thanks pailawaysmiley - hug

and I've added a verse of those lyrics thank you Gnomonsmiley - ok

GB
smiley - galaxysmiley - diva


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pailaway - (an utterly gratuitous link in the evolutionary chain)

smiley - wow I did not know of this group - or this song. Good call
smiley - ok


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Galaxy Babe - eclectic editor

Neither did Ismiley - laugh

It's amazing what you learn on hootoo smiley - biggrin

GB
smiley - galaxysmiley - diva


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Post 35

Gnomon - time to move on

Muse are quite popular in the UK - possibly the number one rock band at the moment. They played at the opening of the Olympic Games in London last year.


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Galaxy Babe - eclectic editor

smiley - doh I knew I'd heard of them, just couldn't remember where or whensmiley - senior

GB
smiley - galaxysmiley - diva


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Post 37

Galaxy Babe - eclectic editor

Anything else? smiley - smiley

GB
smiley - galaxysmiley - diva


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Post 38

Gnomon - time to move on

Hi GB.

Just two points:

1. I'm not really happy with this sentence:

"In September 1996 a candidate planet close to zeta2 Reticuli was proposed." -- I don't think this really explains what was going on here. I'd say:

In September 1996, astronomers noticed variations in the brightest of zeta2 Reticuli and thought that it might be caused by a planet orbiting the star.

2. When you say that Carl Sagan contributed towards the film of Contact, it sounds like he gave money for its production. Is this what you meant, or do you mean that he assisted in the production of the film?

smiley - smiley


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Galaxy Babe - eclectic editor

I've fixed point 1, and Carl Sagan assisted in the production, so I've adjusted that as wellsmiley - ok

Thanks!

GB
smiley - galaxysmiley - diva


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Dmitri Gheorgheni, Post Editor

Ahem. I have recently stumbled across this pop-culture reference to Zeta Reticuli.

This conversation is from the X-Files episode "Squeeze":

"So, Mulder, what do you think, does this look like the work of little green men?"
"Grey."
"Excuse me."
"Grey. You said green men, a Reticulan skin tone is actually grey, they're notorious for their extraction of terrestrial human livers. Due to iron depletion in the Reticulan galaxy."
"You can't be serious."
"Do you have any idea what liver and onions go for on Reticula?" smiley - run


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