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Peer Review: A87762225 - Joe Magarac: Folklore Hero or Fakelore Satire?
Dmitri Gheorgheni, Post Editor Started conversation Jun 13, 2012
Entry: Joe Magarac: Folklore Hero or Fakelore Satire? - A87762225
Author: Dmitri Gheorgheni (GE, Post Editor, send Stuff) - U1590784
This Guide doesn't have enough about steel or Pittsburgh in it. The word Monongahela hasn't been mentioned enough.
A partial remedy.
DG
A87762225 - Joe Magarac: Folklore Hero or Fakelore Satire?
Bluebottle Posted Jun 14, 2012
Another enjoyable article!
There's not a lot really I can say except that sadly when I've used strikethrough in articles it's always been edited out. When I included it in my article on 'Superman IV: The Quest for Peace' Gnomon said, 'The opinion of the Guide Editors is that strike-through is not acceptable. It's too difficult to read.' (I personally disagree, but that might get changed, which is a real shame as I think the strikethrough bit works really well).
Oh, and my home town of Sandown, Isle of Wight also has a Carnegie Library too, popular with Karl Marx and Charles Darwin when they were in the area, opposite where Lewis Carroll stayed.
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A87762225 - Joe Magarac: Folklore Hero or Fakelore Satire?
Dmitri Gheorgheni, Post Editor Posted Jun 14, 2012
I didn't realise Carnegie libraries were international. Many in the US are landmarks because of their architecture. Pittsburghers appreciate theirs, which is a fine library, but are cynical about anything and everything connected to its founder.
I forgot about the strikethrough issue. (Post Editor ignorance.) Thanks for bringing it up.
Let's leave the phrase there for right now, and let somebody come up with a suggestion of how I could imply the comparison without using strikethrough.
A87762225 - Joe Magarac: Folklore Hero or Fakelore Satire?
U168592 Posted Jun 14, 2012
possibly:
'truth, justice, and the American Way', or rather, the growth of capitalist America...
Like the Entry too, btw
A87762225 - Joe Magarac: Folklore Hero or Fakelore Satire?
Dmitri Gheorgheni, Post Editor Posted Jun 14, 2012
A87762225 - Joe Magarac: Folklore Hero or Fakelore Satire?
Bluebottle Posted Jun 14, 2012
(Andrew Carnegie was born in Scotland before he moved to America, in his teens I think, and so he funded libraries in Britain as well as America. I think there are a few more scattered throughout the former empire and odd ones here and there.
The Isle of Wight Council are annoyed - because they have no money and have sold off everything they can, the council now wish to close Sandown Library. Although it is run by the council, as it is a Carnegie Library the terms of the grant show that if the library ever closes, the building reverts to the ownership of the Carnegie Foundation. So the council dare not close the library, which used to house the dinosaur museum on the first floor.<books>
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A87762225 - Joe Magarac: Folklore Hero or Fakelore Satire?
Dmitri Gheorgheni, Post Editor Posted Jun 14, 2012
Now, that is interesting. Sure enough - Carnegie's first library was opened in 1883 in Dunfermline.
There was a similar fight in Philadelphia a few years ago. The University of Pennsylvania wanted to close down a Carnegie Library on their campus because, frankly, they wanted to build a parking lot. No could do - after forcing the community to deal with a store-front library next to the McDonald's for a year or two, they had to let the library be renovated and re-opened.
Here's a nice educational piece about Carnegie, and why he was so interested in libraries:
http://www.nps.gov/nr/twhp/wwwlps/lessons/50carnegie/50facts1.htm
Carnegie is an interesting figure. On the one hand, he gave away 90 percent of his wealth. On the other, he was not a very good employer, and that's putting it mildly. On the one hand, he joined Mark Twain in founding the Anti-Imperialist League, which opposed US formation of a global economic empire. On the other hand, his motives for doing so were quite different from Twain's - Carnegie thought all those grubby foreigners made poor factory workers.
A87762225 - Joe Magarac: Folklore Hero or Fakelore Satire?
lil ~ Auntie Giggles with added login ~ returned Posted Jun 29, 2012
What a great read!
Although I must admit the strikethrough confused me - then again, most things confuse me at the best of times
I don't know what else to say
lil x
A87762225 - Joe Magarac: Folklore Hero or Fakelore Satire?
Gnomon - time to move on Posted Jun 29, 2012
We've a Carnegie Library where I live in Dundrum, too.
A87762225 - Joe Magarac: Folklore Hero or Fakelore Satire?
Gnomon - time to move on Posted Jun 29, 2012
I think there is no great problem with using a single phrase in strikethru font. The problem with Superman was that there were whole paragraphs of it.
I notice that strikethru appears differently in Internet Explorer from its appearance in Firefox. In one, the line is above the crossbar of the "e", in the other it is below. Not a big deal, but it means that legibility will be different in different browsers.
A87762225 - Joe Magarac: Folklore Hero or Fakelore Satire?
lil ~ Auntie Giggles with added login ~ returned Posted Jun 29, 2012
We have a building here in Ellesmere Port which used to house the Carnegie Library. Sadly, it's become something else now.
A87762225 - Joe Magarac: Folklore Hero or Fakelore Satire?
Bluebottle Posted Jun 29, 2012
If you have a Carnegie Library near you, can I ask if you could tell me about it over here: F19585?thread=8294658
I wonder if we can gather enough information for a collaborative entry on Carnegie Libraries.
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A87762225 - Joe Magarac: Folklore Hero or Fakelore Satire?
lil ~ Auntie Giggles with added login ~ returned Posted Jun 29, 2012
A87762225 - Joe Magarac: Folklore Hero or Fakelore Satire?
Dmitri Gheorgheni, Post Editor Posted Jun 29, 2012
Thanks for the clarification, Gnomon.
And yeah, y'all go over there and talk about Carnegie libraries. Please remember that it is correctly pronounced 'Car-NEG-ee'.
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lil ~ Auntie Giggles with added login ~ returned Posted Jul 9, 2012
Sub-ed calling
Galaxy Babe - eclectic editor Posted Aug 26, 2012
Hi Dmitri, I'll be your sub-ed for today
A87764520 <--- please remember to subscribe to the new version of your article
I have:
removed "h2g2 editors" from the author list
Capitalised the word 'internet'
Added the EG link to 'tourists'
Read it through, checked the external links and performed spell-check, found nothing to query
Gnomon said: <> therefore I have left it in. (I was also the sub-ed for the Superman articles so I remember this discussion).
This was a pleasure to sub-edit, Dmitri, with your permission I'll return to Eds for final polish
GB
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Peer Review: A87762225 - Joe Magarac: Folklore Hero or Fakelore Satire?
- 1: Dmitri Gheorgheni, Post Editor (Jun 13, 2012)
- 2: Bluebottle (Jun 14, 2012)
- 3: Dmitri Gheorgheni, Post Editor (Jun 14, 2012)
- 4: U168592 (Jun 14, 2012)
- 5: Dmitri Gheorgheni, Post Editor (Jun 14, 2012)
- 6: Bluebottle (Jun 14, 2012)
- 7: Dmitri Gheorgheni, Post Editor (Jun 14, 2012)
- 8: lil ~ Auntie Giggles with added login ~ returned (Jun 29, 2012)
- 9: Gnomon - time to move on (Jun 29, 2012)
- 10: Gnomon - time to move on (Jun 29, 2012)
- 11: lil ~ Auntie Giggles with added login ~ returned (Jun 29, 2012)
- 12: Bluebottle (Jun 29, 2012)
- 13: lil ~ Auntie Giggles with added login ~ returned (Jun 29, 2012)
- 14: Dmitri Gheorgheni, Post Editor (Jun 29, 2012)
- 15: h2g2 auto-messages (Jul 9, 2012)
- 16: lil ~ Auntie Giggles with added login ~ returned (Jul 9, 2012)
- 17: Galaxy Babe - eclectic editor (Aug 26, 2012)
- 18: Dmitri Gheorgheni, Post Editor (Aug 26, 2012)
- 19: Galaxy Babe - eclectic editor (Aug 26, 2012)
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