A Conversation for Writing Right with Dmitri: Writing the Three-Hanky Story
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minorvogonpoet Started conversation Dec 19, 2011
Are you having us on, Dmitri, or do you really want us to write like William McGonagall?
Surely this approach won't do in these cynical times? Maybe because, at least in the West, we don't expect to find children dead on the pavement, or because we've seen too many TV adaptations of 'Christmas Carol', our reaction is likely to be mockery.
"But in the corner, at the cold hour of dawn, sat the poor grl, with rosy cheeks and with a smiling mouth leaning against the wall. The ambulance stopped by the kerb and the paramedic stooped down and examined her.
'Here's another one that's had a few too many drinks.'"
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Dmitri Gheorgheni, Post Editor Posted Dec 19, 2011
Aha. Another honest reaction to this.
Bel was proofing this one for publication. She wrote me, 'You are making mock of my favourite children's writer.'
Yep. I am. I'm being ironic - or sarcastic, depending on your point of view. It's mean, I know. But I think there's a mile difference between that sort of thing and O Henry.
Have you ever read 'A Dog of Flanders'?
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minorvogonpoet Posted Dec 19, 2011
No, but I have seen 'Goodnight Mr Tom'. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0175680/plotsummary
That's sentimental, but it works, I think, because the characters are strong.
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Dmitri Gheorgheni, Post Editor Posted Dec 19, 2011
I don't know it, I'm afraid, so I couldn't comment.
I believe it is more a question of emotional honesty. Have you seen 'Second-Hand Lions'? It's about two older men who raise their nephew for awhile. They're terrible liars (or seem to be, not giving the plot away), and the boy has been the victim of very bad parenting.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0327137/
The film is warm and convincing because of the emotional honesty of the story and its portrayals. At least, so I say.
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aka Bel - A87832164 Posted Dec 19, 2011
I loved Goodnight Mr Tom. Look for it on netflix or whatever it is called.
And I love the HC Andersen fairy tales. No matter how much you mock them.
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Dmitri Gheorgheni, Post Editor Posted Dec 19, 2011
I will look for that one, thanks.
As for Andersen, I have said what I have said.
There is a wonderful, wonderful novel by Jack Finney, called 'Time and Again'. The plot is about time travel, but the novel is really about memory. The time traveller uses a building near Central Park, called the Dakota, if I remember correctly, and reproductions of period objects to achieve translation into the 1880s.
He moves into a boarding house, where they spend evenings singing. The time traveller remarks:
'Maud found the music, and - all reading the words over her shoulders - we sang what is probably the most lugubrius song I've ever heard, about this poor dead baby, and including lines like "Baby's gone to join the angels, peaceful evermore.'
The narrator goes on to note that the pianist had tears in her eyes.
http://books.google.com/books?id=XHYhiWmMvysC&pg=PA159&lpg=PA159&dq=jack+finney+dead+baby+songs&source=bl&ots=iazsGkHNLf&sig=wMu04XNKyG7T5cb6P0GH8GLmPvU&hl=en&sa=X&ei=24PvTu2MIYWftweYk8mHCA&ved=0CB4Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false
I've found the song. It's called 'Cradle's Empty'. Here are the lyrics:
http://pdmusic.org/1800s/80cebg.txt
The sheet music cover for maximum verisimilude:
http://epfl.mdch.org/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/mdbv&CISOPTR=188&CISOBOX=1&REC=5
Unfortunately, I cannot find the tune.
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aka Bel - A87832164 Posted Dec 19, 2011
We have something similar (or better, we had):
http://www.kuksnet.de/dateien/kinderlieder/heidschibumbeidschi.htm
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aka Bel - A87832164 Posted Dec 19, 2011
It was immensely popular in the 1960s, sung by a Dutch boy called Heintje.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=496QyjNE-Vo
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Dmitri Gheorgheni, Post Editor Posted Dec 19, 2011
That's cruel, Bel.
By the way, we were just at the grocery. The loudspeaker was playing 'My Favourite Things'. Elektra started fussing.
'That's not a Christmas song! It's got nazis in!'
I laughed all the way to the car.
Revenge is sweet...this is the worst, most maudlin song we know from the 1970s:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59BZxgohr9g
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minorvogonpoet Posted Dec 20, 2011
I was rather hoping for something on dialogue.
As for song writing, I haven't forgotten Neil Diamond!
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Dmitri Gheorgheni, Post Editor Posted Dec 20, 2011
Ooh, dialogue...thanks for the tip, MVP.
Neil Diamond. I wonder who else will stir up controversy? Obviously, this vein is not tapped out...
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