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A62394131 - The Trouble With Ciphers
Devonseaglass Posted Jun 10, 2010
Oh I thought it was finished; that's optimism for you! Should I include something like this?
Using codes is one of the two major ways of encrypting. This method replaces complete words or phrases by code words or numbers.
Using ciphers is the other major way of encrypting. This replaces individual letters by other numbers or letters.
This entry is all about ciphers, and not codes, since ciphers are the main way of secret writing.
As to the title, ciphers are vulnerable and remain so, hence they cause trouble.
A62394131 - The Trouble With Ciphers
lil ~ Auntie Giggles with added login ~ returned Posted Jun 11, 2010
A62394131 - The Trouble With Ciphers
h5ringer Posted Jun 12, 2010
The headings 'Mono alphabetic Ciphers' and 'Poly alphabetic Cyphers' should at be hyphenated: Mono-alphabetic and Poly-alphabetic
A62394131 - The Trouble With Ciphers
Lanzababy - Guide Editor Posted Jun 12, 2010
Entry: The Trouble With Ciphers - A62394131
Author: Devonseaglass-dsg - U13965605
most common letters in plaintext are
----> plain text
All governments, in those days usually crowned heads of state, had their own cipher secretaries.
I'm sorry but I don't understand this sentence.
mono alphabets ----> mono-alphabets
one for one ----> one-for-one
Actually this whole paragraph is one sentence.
Cryptographers, aware that frequency analysis of mono alphabets (a simple one for one substitution of letters) was becoming very successful, tried other methods, including adding nulls, (using two-number combinations instead of letters, randomly mixed within the cipher text), misspelling the plain text before enciphering it, and mixing code words (representing a word by another word) within the cipher text.
Make it into two such as:
Cryptographers, aware that frequency analysis of mono-alphabets (a simple one-for-one substitution of letters) was becoming very successful, tried other methods. This including adding nulls, (using two-number combinations instead of letters, randomly mixed within the cipher text), misspelling the plain text before enciphering it, and mixing code words (representing a word by another word) within the cipher text.
do you explain somewhere what a 'null' is?
(I can see that you are online at the moment dsg so I'm half way through, and sending this now, to let you make any edits)
Lanza
A62394131 - The Trouble With Ciphers
Lanzababy - Guide Editor Posted Jun 12, 2010
cont'd
One of the earliest machines designed to encipher messages was originated by Leon Alberti, of Trevi fountain fame.
----> you've already mentioned this chap higher up the text, so
One of the earliest machines designed to encipher messages was originated by the aforementioned Leon Alberti.
The search was on for a one-way function that could be used to communicate the public key, along with a private key the recipient, and only the recipient had.
----> The search was on for a one-way function that could be used to communicate the public key, along with a private key [that] the recipient, and only the recipient[,] had.
I think this sentence needs an extra [that] and a comma where shown.
who invented it(Ron Rivest, Adi Shamir, Leonard Adleman),
missing space before the first parenthesis
For the last 1,000 years[,] or so, people have relied on ciphers to shield their messages from the eyes of enemies[,] and friends alike.
take out these stray commas
They have usually come to regret that faith eventually, as cryptanalysts always seem able to find a way to decipher them, often using subterfuge, and insights into behaviour, as well as recognising human fraility in using otherwise secure ciphers.
I'm sorry I don't understand this sentence at all. Did you mean 'fate' rather than 'faith' - but even then I'm not following your meaning.
Add something like Take a look at. . .
before this link:
New Record in the Area of Prime Number Decomposition of Cryptographically Important Numbers.
co inventor ----> co-inventor
ps there are a few mono-alphabets that need hyphenating.
phew . . .
I think this is great stuff dsg. I've never understood how the Enigma machine worked until this explanation, so thanks! I've learned a great deal.
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The H2G2 Editors Posted Jun 18, 2010
Excellent work Deavonseaglass! Apologies for the slightly tardy response from our end here - we're a man down for three weeks, so we're taking a little longer to get round to things. Anyway, lovely Entry, well done, and we look forward to seeing this on the front page in due course
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Devonseaglass Posted Jun 19, 2010
It makes up for the lack of silky skills and deft touches. Not! Thanks Lil. Wimbledon next week, will be a welcome distraction from the footy.
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