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Malakim
Apollyon - Grammar Fascist Started conversation Jan 12, 2004
This is another word for the Virtues. The Dominations also have another name, the Kyriotates, and the powers are aka the Elohim. I also believe there are two Choirs below the Arhcangels, the Mercurians and the Grigori, but the Grigori were cast out for mating with Humans (apparently).
There are, in total, 15 Archangels that I am aware of: Blandine, David, Dominic, Eli, Gabriel, Janus, Jean, Jordi, Lawrence, Marc, Michael, Novalis, Raphael, Uriel, and Yves.
From what I have heard, the deal with the Celestial War is that Uriel leads the army and Michael is only indirectly in charge of it, devoting more of his attention to lone fighters. It may also be possible that Uriel was recalled to the higher Celestial realms after he massacred all the remaining faeries in 745AD and Lawrence took over his position, but this is likely to be fabrication.
Any idea where I might obtain the Book of Enoch?
Malakim
KevinM Posted Nov 8, 2004
Ok its obvious you play to many rpgs. In Nomine is a great game but gets things so drasticly wrong on so many levels its not even funny. Traditionally there are 7 archangels not 15, Eli is from Santeria not Christianity, Malakim is the Hebrew word that the Greeks translated to Angelos.
Malakim
KevinM Posted Nov 14, 2004
Some of the basic wrong statements in In Nomine:
Michael is and always has been the leader of the army of Heaven
Gabriel is yes the messanger of God but no lore suggests he's gone mad. Further Hes in most legends reffered to as a male(as are all angels)
Uriel was never formally recalled to any "higher heaven" this was probably a way of circumventing the fact he's no longer formally recognized by the Church as an archangela
Lawrence and Dominic while reffered to in lore are not particularly signifigant
as far as I know Eli is from Santeria
Raphael and Metatron aren't dead
The short version of this would be to say that In Nomine is useless as a resourse on any real world angelology.
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