A Conversation for Some Logic about Life
Why did he need creating?
Insight Started conversation Nov 20, 2001
Since you are assuming that God created the universe, you can then bring in a scientific fact about the universe - that it contains time. It follows, then, that God made time and is therefore outside of it.
Outside of time, the laws of cause and effect no longer apply, so there is no need for God to have had a cause, that is, for someone to have created him.
Why did he need creating?
Wonko Posted Nov 28, 2001
The laws of cause and effect do always apply, even if there is no time. If they wouldn't, there were a static universe with no change. But the creation of another universe (ours in your example) requires change.
And the laws of the fundamental difference of nothing and something do also apply: before life there was nothing, and then there was life.
Your statement is like: life (in your case god) always existed (outside of time and space). Point. Does that answer any questions?
No.
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