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Peer Review: A3862839 - Guitar - Artificial Harmonics

Post 1

MuchoCoolio

Entry: Guitar - Artificial Harmonics - A3862839
Author: MuchoCoolio - U1465784

I think this is pretty much finished lol I'd be most grateful if any guitar players out there who don't know how to do this try to learn from my article and report back!


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Post 2

There is only one thing worse than being Gosho, and that is not being Gosho

Not bad mate, not bad at all smiley - biggrin Needs a little work, but I'm not a guitar player and I'm a little short of time right now to give it more than a quick read.

smiley - ok
Scout


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Post 3

Dr Hell

Hello.

Nice topic. This Entry might need an introduction. Being the smiley - geek I am, I would've written about *what harmonics are* first... Tones with double, triple etc. frequencies. And how that relates to the oscillations of a string with nodes and stuff. Also I would mention that harmonics are always present when a string is picked, however in varying proportions (hence also the difference between using bridge and neck pickups), the zeroth harmonic or fundamental usually takes the lion's share in these proportions. From this point it is easy to explain the mechanics behind producing harmonics (artificial or otherwise): By placing a finger, or any object at one of the nodes will damp the fundamental mode, leaving the rest to be heard.

But then again, I doubt that this explanation would be of any help for a guitarist that doesn't have a degree in science...

Hmmm...

HELL


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Post 4

Gnomon - time to move on

Well done! A good article about an interesting topic. smiley - ok

It's worth mentioning that notes produced by your artificial harmonic method are an octave higher than the fretted note.


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Post 5

Dr Hell

Not necessarily, Gnomon. If you out your finger on the 5th fret of A (110Hz) you get the 3rd Harmonic (triple frequency) of the fundamental (or 330Hz) which is an E. Now if you put your finger on the 7th fret of the low E string (82.5 Hz) you get the 4th harmonic of E which is 330Hz (E 2 octaves higher). You can use that to tune your guitar.

HELL


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Post 6

Dr Hell

I should learn to read postings better... You're right, if you divide the string in half you get an octave higher. But I would just like to mention that you can produce higher harmonics (which are not always octaves higher) if you put your fingers somewhere else...

smiley - erm Sorry

HELL


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Post 7

Gnomon - time to move on

Thanks, Hell. I know that the 5th fret natural harmonic is two octaves higher than the open string, and the 7th fret natural harmonic is a "perfect twelfth" higher (A becomes E). But I don't think these should be mentioned in the entry, since it will only confuse things.


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Post 8

Dr Hell

Well... Sorry about that comment Gnomon, I was sure you knew that. I just started writing my reply without reading your posting properly...

About mentioning this (non-octave harmonics) in the Entry... Since this Entry is about artificial harmonics, I think it should be in there. Especially since you can use it to tune your guitar, and since the author mentions producing harmonics at the 5th and 7th fret.

HELL


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Post 9

DaveBlackeye

Mmm. I can't seem to find a consistent definition of natural vs artificial harmonics. However, once I twigged what the entry was about it immediately occurred to me that artificial harmonics are usually played using the thumb, just in front of the pick, to damp the string during the downstroke. Admittedly the entry states that it only describes one method, but the method in question seems a bit ungainly and wouldn't be much use for anything other than single notes. Other methods, particularly the most common one, should also be covered. Otherwise good though.


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Post 10

Gnomon - time to move on

In the musical world, "natural harmonic" means a harmonic of an open string, while "artificial harmonic" means a harmonic of a string that has been shortened by fingering the string on the fingerboard.

Similar techniques are used in the violin, except that the left hand is used both to finger the string and to touch the string at the harmonic point one quarter of the way between the finger point and the bridge. This produces an artificial harmonic two octaves higher than the fingered note, and is similar to the "24 fret method" mentioned briefly here.


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Post 11

Dr Hell

I agree with the definition given by Gnomon.

I still think the non-octave harmonics should be mentioned as well as a little intro about how the harmonics occur.

[Natural Harmonics] "These notes occur at the 5th, 7th, 12th frets on every string..." (Natural harmonics also occur on the 3rd, 2nd, 4th frets, the only thing is that they're of such high order that it's virtually impossible to hear or to produce them.)

smiley - winkeye HELL


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Post 12

Recumbentman

Nice topic, well introduced.

You could mention the method used by classical guitarists, using no plectrum (pick): the harmonic spot is touched by the right index finger and the string plucked by the ring finger.


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Post 13

Kat - From H2G2

Do you reckon the author will return? I wanted to put this in this week's Focus on Peer Review...but I'll have to wait until the author returns and hopefully put it in next week. Then maybe a flock of guitar players will come flooding in...perhaps...

Kat


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Post 14

Dr Hell

What the heck is 'this week's focus'?

HELL


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Post 15

Kat - From H2G2

Well if you read <./>ThePost</.> you'd know all about it smiley - tongueoutsmiley - smiley


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Post 16

Dr Hell

smiley - cross I don't read the post.

smiley - tongueout

What is it?

HELL


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Post 17

Kat - From H2G2

smiley - steam This is so the wrong place to be talking about this! Many apologies to reviewers and the author.

A3867366 is last week's entry.


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Post 18

Dr Hell

Sorry...
(But why can't we talk about Peer Review matters in Peer Review?)

Anyways, I'll take a look at the link smiley - winkeye

HELL


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Post 20

Recumbentman

MuchoCoolio struck twice and elvised. Pity; the subject broached deserves a simple entry, and this is almost there.


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