A Conversation for George Berkeley: Empiricist Philosopher and Bishop
A3390554 - George Berkeley: sceptic, philosopher and bishop
Recumbentman Posted Dec 19, 2004
Funny; it really hadn't struck me that there is nothing objective in my calling Berkeley Ireland's greatest philosopher. There's conviction.
A3390554 - George Berkeley: sceptic, philosopher and bishop
Recumbentman Posted Dec 21, 2004
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A3390554 - George Berkeley: sceptic, philosopher and bishop
Smij - Formerly Jimster Posted Dec 21, 2004
One tiny pick-up from an earlier comment - quotations *shouldn't* be in italics, unless they're also in blockquotes. Short quotes should only be within single inverted commas.
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A3390554 - George Berkeley: sceptic, philosopher and bishop
Recumbentman Posted Dec 21, 2004
My, that was quick! In fact on an attached conversation thread a suggestion has come up that I should expand on the typical misunderstanding Berkeley has suffered, and I'd like to think about this.
I'd also like to research a story that I'd heard, about Vanessa and Swift, but the person who told it to me has forgotten it and given me another few names to ask; so I won't be done before Christmas in all probability.
Not that I'm ungrateful
A3390554 - George Berkeley: sceptic, philosopher and bishop
Recumbentman Posted Jan 2, 2005
Happy New Year. I've added a bit on the 'common misunderstanding' theme: a new paragraph called "It's all in your head, Mr Tweedie". I've decided not to pursue the story about the publication of Cadenus and Vanessa. So if it is OK to you, my honoured peers, I'm happy to let this version go forward.
A3390554 - George Berkeley: sceptic, philosopher and bishop
Gnomon - time to move on Posted Jan 3, 2005
Two points:
You need a few more capital letters in the title: Sceptic, Philosopher and Bishop.
You say that scepticism brought him round full circle to religion. But why is it full circle? You say he was sceptical from the start.
Other than those, this is perfect.
G
A3390554 - George Berkeley: sceptic, philosopher and bishop
Recumbentman Posted Jan 4, 2005
Thank you, the rapidly-vanishing G.
Full circle was put in to forestall the sub ed's likely and understandable objection to "a commodious vicus of recirculation", even with a footnote naming Finnegans Wake.
I thought of "full circle" because Berkeley's upbringing would inevitably have started him out with plenty of religion, not only at school but doubtless also in the home. But maybe we can do without that too. Razors everywhere.
A3390554 - George Berkeley: sceptic, philosopher and bishop
Recumbentman Posted Jan 4, 2005
Well . . . in cutting out "full circle" I found myself compelled to put in a lot of other stuff, so that paragraph now reads "We are left then with nothing but our perceptions; but the evident fact that our perceptions are well-knit and coherent in daily life amounted, for Berkeley, to nothing short of the divine. In this way his scepticism, followed unflinchingly to its conclusion, brought him back to religion. Nothing essentially inaccessible to mind can be presumed to exist: Berkeley's motto became 'esse est percipi' - to be is to be perceived. We are not however isolated minds; we rely on shared experience in the greatest and least things in life. The ground of our unity, the universal mind within which we commonly perceive, act and communicate, he concluded, is God."
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Gnomon - time to move on Posted Jan 4, 2005
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