A Conversation for CAC : Continuum - The Sneaky Issue
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nadia Posted Jan 16, 2004
The comma in the first sentance is not needed.
In the third sentence there should be a comma after that or no comma at all. I'd go for making it a single clause.
Sentence starting 'what did happen...' should continue 'was *that* several'
Just a thought but would it be easier for me to nip in and give it a brief edit?
Speckly
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The CAC CONTINUUM - The ongoing adventures of the Committee for Alien Content (a division of AggGag) Posted Jan 16, 2004
Posting as the AggGag identity to create another quick link to that page. I keep making little changes. It's addictive. I've gotta stop.
Yes, I want the UGlies to do their own thing, and promote their own selections, so I won't be telling you how to do it. If you think a heavy-up first issue will find favour, so be it.
The one thing I'll be looking for (besides the usual spelling, grammar and layout concerns any sub-editor would look for) is that only selections that really were UNDERGUIDE rejects get the UG logo or any reference to their ever being considered by UG as a group.
Everything else you want to put in is just CAC. Feel free to use any other entries to fill a page. But don't let these give the impression that UG (as a group identity) ever considered them worthy of front page distinction.
I am (perhaps overly) concerned that the reputation of UG not be sullied by association with known rabble-rousers. Individual UGlies should promote their personal favourites as themselves and only give the UG blessing to the true UG 'overflow'.
Hope that makes sense.
~jwf~
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J Posted Jan 16, 2004
Don't be silly. I'm honored to be among these ranks and your reputation could only help ours. And we have no reputation yet. We're a few brash newcomers who like to browse the AWW.
The slow UG processes (sorry to keep talking about myself) won't bother you, but whether or not you want to associate yourselves with us is your decision. I think I speak for all of us when I say we respect and admire the CAC enormously.
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nadia Posted Jan 16, 2004
We're glad that there is another outlet for creative writing active again. Twas needed. The CAC and the UG have very distinct 'flavours' and we savour both with equal relish because of their different qualities.
Speckly (+lizardy)
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Sneaky Posted Jan 16, 2004
Yes, please! I'm a horrible writer, my spelling sucks, my grammer is horrid, I use too many commas, my style lacks any sort of grace. Basically an American Southerner (but nothing like that Illiterate Redneck). Hell, I'm suprised I didn't use 'ain't' and 'ya'll' a few times in the issue. So basically any help making it read better is a good thing.
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Sneaky Posted Jan 21, 2004
Is it me, or do the eyes next to your own name look sinister? It's just a little creepy to think that I'm looking at me.
Anyway, I'm pretty much done with this one. Unless Speckly wants to give that quick edit, it's ready for .
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nadia Posted Jan 21, 2004
Sorry, thought I'd come back and said! I did give it a once over a few days ago.
Not much to fix by the time I got there, just the commas really. Sneaky, your not as bad as you think! You tend to write in single clause sentences (that's a good thing, and so much better than the alternative if you are unsure of grammar. Badly punctuated run on sentences are a curse) the only place yu are going wong is throwing commas in to them a bit randomly.
I've been wondering if that's an American trend? Jodan does it sometimes too.
Speckly
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~ jwf ~ scribblo ergo sum Posted Jan 21, 2004
What's that, commas, overuse of, American tendency? Yes, it comes from TV sound bites and video game attention spans. Each thought is a breath, and a pause is necessary, after every one, almost every time.
It could also be a reflection of snack food eating habits, like peanuts, crisps or smarties, one little bite at a time. But while the overall effect can, sometimes, sound like panting, it is, often, a sure way to ensure clarity, so long as the cumulative number of commas does not exceed the reader's IQ.
I particulary like your mission statement about the newfound UG/CAC-C relationship. It is a concise synopsis and because it explains the situation so well I'd like to see this page featured ASAP.
Let us (tonsil revenge) know what you decide about copying the links to new A-numbers. If you think they are safe as original entries then I'd say it's ready.
~jwf~
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J Posted Jan 21, 2004
>>Jodan does it sometimes too.
Jodan does it constantly! I try to make a constant effort not to use too many of the commas.
jwf, frankly, I'm not sure about the copying of entries. Do you have a preference?
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~ jwf ~ scribblo ergo sum Posted Jan 22, 2004
>> Do you have a preference? <<
Ah cheers, yeah, mine's a single malt if you're buying.
No, actually I'm not that anal, I'm just advising (from experience) that entries over which one has no editorial control (the U-number designated as 'edited by') can sometimes disappear, or worse, they get revised into something you might not want to be seen promoting.
I'm sure shazz could advise of other reasons that makes a copy of every page submitted before publishing links to them. There are many reasons to retain editorial control over the content.
We are in effect a 'literary magazine' insert in and we cannot expect The Post team to make copies of every link we publish or be obliged to revise/edit our page to reflect changes in the A-numbers of every entry or link we promote.
It is a bit of work, and it may not be necessary, but perhaps one of your sub-editors might enjoy organising, mustering and refreshing any entries you guys are going to be on record as promoting.
It's a sort of stage manager type position, basically assigning new A-numbers to selected entries. They would then all appear as 'edited by' your Cac-C/DUG/UG?ug?AcAgg identity U555493.
~jwf~
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Sneaky Posted Jan 22, 2004
Speckly - See, I couldn't even tell that you had given it the once over. The commas (for me at least) are a direct representation of my natural speech patterns. Whenever I would have paused in a sentence when speaking, I place a comms when typing. One step away from random, granted.
~jwf~ - Isnt' there a way to still credit the original author even though the 'edited by' part will say CAC-C? My mind is telling me that I've seen that done before. I'd feel better making copies if there were still a way to staple the author's name on the entry.
Waiting for official word before copying entries.
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J Posted Jan 22, 2004
Sneaky, yes of course there's a way to do that. When you edit an entry, there's a researcher box that gives you instructions on crediting researchers.
>>Waiting for official word before copying entries.
Whose official word?
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~ jwf ~ scribblo ergo sum Posted Jan 22, 2004
>> When you edit an entry, there's a researcher box that gives you instructions.. <<
Which simply stated works this way.
When you create any new A-number entry, the first U-number to appear in the box is your own as 'editor'. Which, if you are logged on as the CAC-C/UG identity, is U555493 and that User ID will appear as 'edited by'. If CAC makes a copy their version will credit U187783, the old AggGag/CAC identity as the 'editor' or creator of the copy.
But the MOST important U-number to enter in the box is the original writer's so that their name will appear as 'written and researched by'. Any copied entry that a CAC-C issue links to should always credit the original writer and show one of the CAC-C identities as the 'editor'.
Then, when makes their copy of a complete CAC-C issue, their page will show 'edited by the Post Team' (whose actual U-number escapes me momentarily) and whichever CAC-C/UG editor put the issue page together will appear as 'written and researched by'.
To summarise:
Each issue of CAC-C published in will eventually be a new A-number copy 'edited by the Post Team' and it will show the CAC-C editor of the issue as the 'writer/researcher' of that issue.
And the individual entries we promote should be our A-number copies with the original writer properly credited as writer/researcher and one of the CAC-C identities as editor of the entry.
But It's kinda like a pyramid. No one officially knows how they were built but they look marvelous.
jwf
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J Posted Jan 22, 2004
The Post team is U54963 I haven't the slightest idea why I've memorized it, but I have
Very thorough explanation, jwf.
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LL Waz Posted Jan 22, 2004
Hey, do you know the one for the writing guidelines Jodan? I had to post the whole www address for someone last night because I couldn't tell what it was.
About copying entries - I decided to copy the ones for the issue I've done, mainly because I had the time to do it. While doing it I checked the links in the music tv one and found two broken h2g2 links, (one deleted by the author), and an external one that took me to a shopping site .
Waz
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~ jwf ~ scribblo ergo sum Posted Jan 22, 2004
In GDML format:
Guidelines for Writing Edited Entries
In conversation threads it is a named link < . / > Writing-Guidelines < / . >
And ends up looking like this:
Writing-Guidelines
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- 24: nadia (Jan 16, 2004)
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- 26: Sneaky (Jan 16, 2004)
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- 28: nadia (Jan 21, 2004)
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- 31: LL Waz (Jan 21, 2004)
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