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aGuyCalledPaff Posted Aug 1, 2007
The Italian FIA member wrote to Max about the unfairness of the FIA World Motorsport Council hearing. Max wrote back saying the matter would go to appeal. The letters are here:
http://www.fia.com/mediacentre/Press_Releases/FIA_Sport/2007/July/310707-01.html
Ron Dennis has now written to the Italian FIA member (full letter half way down the page):
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/61260
Meanwhile... Nelson Piquet Sr has lost his driving licence :
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6924089.stm
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aGuyCalledPaff Posted Aug 11, 2007
Sebastien Bourdais has signed for Toro Rosso next year:
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/61468
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aGuyCalledPaff Posted Aug 29, 2007
Silly Season is almost upon us. And there are really only a handful of drives that are up for grabs... Or are there...
The obvious ones:
Ralf will be out on his ear next year.
As maybe will Trulli, if Toyota have the bottle to get shot of two drivers at the same time.
Surely Renault will get shot of Fisi.
The questions:
Will Williams keep Wurz?
Will Prodrive actually turn up, and if so, will they run Pedro and Paffett?
Will Renault promote Piquet Jr to a race seat?
However...
The other questions:
Will Lewis or Fernando want to be in the same team next year?
And will they both be wanting proper No1 status?
So where will they go, do we suppose?
Alonso:
Surely he would've signed a 'multi-year contract' [RonSpeak] so I can't see it'd be easy to get shot of him unless he wants to go. Might he go back to Renault? Would McLaren return the favour from this year and let Fernando start early so he can get some testing in? And would the Renault be any good next year? Or would Ferrari want him? Would Fernando go there and again be up against another decent team-mate? Which Ferrari driver would be shown the door?
Hamilton:
He may well have a contract where McLaren have the option to get him a seat somewhere else (when he was announced, he was a relatively unknown quantity, and if the likes of DC had been right and Lewis had caved under the pressure I could've seen him going to Prodrive next year). If Alonso stays, what would McLaren do? Would Ferrari take Lewis? And again, who would be his team-mate there?
My money is on...
If Lewis wins the driver's championship this year, Ferdy will have no choice other than to go back to Renault. Then Fisi will be out, Heikki will stay and Piquet will be put somewhere like Williams. Williams will outsource Rosberg to Toyota and will ditch Wurz for Timo Glock who will have won this year's GP2 by then. Lewis can stay at McLaren, and be teamed up with someone harmless like Pedro De La Rosa. Paffett can still go to Prodrive, but will most likely have to stay in DTM because Prodrive will still be a figment of Dave Richard's imagination.
Long shot...
If Ferdy wins the championship, I reckon he'll retire.
Any other ideas folks?
Paff
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Reefgirl (Brunel Baby) Posted Aug 29, 2007
I heard that Fisi was out on his ear anyway
I'm surprised the other teams aren't queuing at the door with all this internal strife and McLaren, he could have his pic of drives, winning the championship or not
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Giford Posted Aug 30, 2007
I heard the Williams drivers are confirmed for next year - with a big step up in car performance, they're both keen to stay.
Lewis will be at McLaren next year, no question. He's McLaren to the core for the foreseeable future. Dominant over his team-mate and in a top car, why would he move?
McLaren will keep Alonso if they can. He may have been outshone this year, but he's still one of the best drivers in F1. Alonso's in a no-win situation though - if he stays, he's likely to continue to be second-best to Hamilton, if he leaves Hamilton drove him away. I guess he'll stay, even if only because there's no decent drive for him to go to.
No change at Fiat either. The top 2 teams have the best 4 drivers.
Gif
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fords - number 1 all over heaven Posted Aug 30, 2007
You might have something there. I don't think Alonso would ever go to Ferrari but I could see him going back to Renault - if he doesn't retire, of course...
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Giford Posted Aug 30, 2007
Renault's conceivable - but I have trouble seeing him going from one of the top 2 teams to the 4th team. Plus it would be blatant that he couldn't compete with Hamilton. I think his only option is to stick it out and try to improve.
I hope he does stay - for my money, McLaren have 2 of the top 3 drivers in F1.
Gif
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aGuyCalledPaff Posted Aug 31, 2007
We're all assuming Lewis is going to beat Fernando. My money is still on Alonso winning the championship, although the odds are a bit long at the moment.
Also don't forget that last year Renault were top team and it was McLaren who were having an off day. The year before that Ferrari were nowhere. So maybe Renault can be back on the pace next year?
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T.B. Falsename ACE: [stercus venio] I have learned from my mistakes, and feel I could repeat them exactly. Posted Sep 1, 2007
Teams go up and down. Renault engined cars won the 92, 93, 95, 96 and 97 world championships. In 1995 the top 4 drivers, Schumacher, Hill, Coulthard and Herbert were all driving Renaults. Ferrari have yo-yod up and down the table more times than Williams so just because a team's not performing to their expected standard doesn't mean that they won't do well next year.
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Giford Posted Sep 6, 2007
Ominously, the FIA says it has 'new evidence' in the McLaren spy scandal, and has changed the appeal hearing to a full FIA meeting.
No word on what this new evidence is as yet.
Gif
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Dr E Vibenstein (You know it is, it really is.) Posted Sep 6, 2007
Curiouser and curiouser... http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?PO_ID=40534
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Giford Posted Sep 14, 2007
In case anyone's living on Mars and hasn't heard, the FIA verdict on the McLaren spy scandal is in.
McLaren have been disqualified from this year's championship - effectively handing the Constructors' title to Ferrari in the courtroom - and hit with a $100,000,000 fine
Speaking as a confirmed Ferrari non-fan, I have to say that the evidence against McLaren as presented by the WMSC seems overwhelming:
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/62348
I would, however, say that the penalty seems excessive (I was expecting around a 20-point penalty or a £20,000,000 fine at most). It also seems bizarre to penalise the team rather than Alonso, given that Alonso, Diniz and Coughlan are the only individuals directly implicated.
Gif
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Giford Posted Sep 14, 2007
It turns out that the mole within McLaren who alerted the FIA to the existence of the emails that have just cost the team $100,000,000 plus the constructors championship was not Fernando Alonso after all. In fact it was - Ron Dennis!
I have to say I didn't see that one coming!
Gif
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Al Johnston Posted Sep 14, 2007
Kudos for his integrity.
I hope that counts in mitigation at the appeal.
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Dr E Vibenstein (You know it is, it really is.) Posted Sep 15, 2007
According to this report, it was Ron Dennis who blabbed to the FIA... but only because Alsono had threatened to do it if he wasn't given number 1 driver status at McLaren. Obviously Ron wasn't going to give him top billing, so he called his bluff.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/6996172.stm
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fords - number 1 all over heaven Posted Sep 15, 2007
I couldn't believe that when you told me! I think Ron did the right thing though, even if it has cost his team a hell of a lot. It looks like McLaren do like to treat their drivers as equals after all! I've totally changed my opinion of Alonso thanks to his antics this season. I thought he was a decent bloke. Obviously not.
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ultrapete Posted Sep 16, 2007
HI guys
sorry to change teh subjuct a litte.
(i have herd far to much about 'spygate' 'Ferrarigate' Stepnygate' or whatever 'gate' they have been calling it this week at work!)
bit of sad news here http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/glasgow_and_west/6997270.stm
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- 41: aGuyCalledPaff (Aug 1, 2007)
- 42: aGuyCalledPaff (Aug 11, 2007)
- 43: aGuyCalledPaff (Aug 29, 2007)
- 44: Reefgirl (Brunel Baby) (Aug 29, 2007)
- 45: Giford (Aug 30, 2007)
- 46: aGuyCalledPaff (Aug 30, 2007)
- 47: fords - number 1 all over heaven (Aug 30, 2007)
- 48: Giford (Aug 30, 2007)
- 49: aGuyCalledPaff (Aug 31, 2007)
- 50: T.B. Falsename ACE: [stercus venio] I have learned from my mistakes, and feel I could repeat them exactly. (Sep 1, 2007)
- 51: Giford (Sep 1, 2007)
- 52: Giford (Sep 6, 2007)
- 53: Dr E Vibenstein (You know it is, it really is.) (Sep 6, 2007)
- 54: Giford (Sep 14, 2007)
- 55: Giford (Sep 14, 2007)
- 56: Giford (Sep 14, 2007)
- 57: Al Johnston (Sep 14, 2007)
- 58: Dr E Vibenstein (You know it is, it really is.) (Sep 15, 2007)
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