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Challange: Rupert Bear
SEF Posted Jul 26, 2006
I don't think I can reasonably fit them into a rhyme but I have a couple of lists of the Rupert stories. My oldest book (no date but price in old money and printed on thick paper bound with string!) lists 46 titles, including itself. However, it has another (unlisted) story in it after the main one.
Challange: Rupert Bear
Icy North Posted Jul 27, 2006
Would we want to list all the stories? There must be hundreds. It would be better to find a link to this sort of thing, if it exists.
I bet the old books are worth a few bob nowadays.
Challange: Rupert Bear
SEF Posted Jul 27, 2006
I had referred to my book because I hadn't immediately come across such a list in the links at which I'd looked and that *is* a fairly common thing to include. However, there may well be one out there. It would only be safe to link to it from the EG if it wasn't likely to move though.
I suspect the value of my copy would be pretty low - having been much used. One of the sites I found had something about collectibles but I was assuming, from the look of it, that it was modern tat rather than historical. Besides which the BBC allegedly isn't in the business of advertising.
Challange: Rupert Bear
Icy North Posted Jul 27, 2006
So, what's your feeling on this rhyming guide entry, SEF? Should it be:
stifled at birth?
kept here for a while longer?
opened up to the CWW?
Icy
Challange: Rupert Bear
SEF Posted Jul 27, 2006
I still think it would be amusing to have a rhyming entry. There's always the danger I might do one anyway. However, the "stifled at birth" issue ought to take into account any Editorial edict. There's no point in doing one for the EG if the EG won't have one at all. Which is not to say there's no point in doing a subversive/underground version as well as any official version were that decision to go against rhyming entries.
If you are planning to do an entry on Rupert Bear, it's up to you when and where you start it. Merely being in the CWW doesn't (or didn't!) allow multiple people to actually edit the page. It would still need an owner. Where to place it (and when) is a somewhat separate decision to the issue of rhymes - depending on how much collective input you (or anyone else) decides they need to get an entry done. I doubt you'd need much assistance to do a prose entry.
Challange: Rupert Bear
Icy North Posted Jul 27, 2006
Fair point. It's one of those things where they would say "No" if you asked them now, but if you completed, say, a good rhyming introductory piece, they might be persuaded to say "Yes". They will waive rules when it suits them.
As to ownership - I'll leave that up to you. I probably don't have the time to do one, except to "dip in" to something collaborative every now and then. If you would like to run the show, then it was your idea after all.
Challange: Rupert Bear
Opticalillusion- media mynx life would be boring without hiccups Posted Jul 28, 2006
I'm on to writing an entry on Rupert Bear. If anyone wants to help out thats fine with me. For I have got a few things going through the system already.
Challange: Rupert Bear
Opticalillusion- media mynx life would be boring without hiccups Posted Jul 28, 2006
you can help Icy (and everyone)
Challange: Rupert Bear
Smij - Formerly Jimster Posted Aug 3, 2006
Just on the idea of rhyming couplets, I seem to remember that they summarised different points of the story underneath the pictures. Maybe the rhyming couplets could summarise each section, with full commentary to follow. But a whole entry in rhyming couplets wouldn't really be suitable for the Edited Guide, and wouldn't really do the job the challenge is asking for.
I've got a little information on the Rupert TV series - the one with the catchiest theme tune ever.
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Opticalillusion- media mynx life would be boring without hiccups Posted Aug 3, 2006
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Icy North Posted Aug 3, 2006
Opti - this looks fantastic. Is it ready for PR?
p.s. I told you he'd say "No"
I think you've done such a good 'straight' treatment of RB, it probably doesn't need gimmicks like rhyming couplet header introductions.
Icy
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Opticalillusion- media mynx life would be boring without hiccups Posted Aug 3, 2006
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Opticalillusion- media mynx life would be boring without hiccups Posted Aug 3, 2006
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Smij - Formerly Jimster Posted Aug 3, 2006
It's very good this - apart from the TV section which misses out the more famous version.
The Adventures of Rupert Bear was broadcast across ITV regions from 28 October 1970 until August 1977 - 156 ten-minute episodes in all, though sadly only about 70 of them still exist in the archives. Produced by Mary Turner and John Read, it used string-puppets to recreate stories from Ruperb Bear annuals, with the design of the puppets taken from those rather lush illustrations that graced the covers of the annuals, rather than the flatter illustrations of the stories themselves. The puppetry was of a much more simplistic form than Gerry Anderson's Thunderbirds had done (even though one of the puppeteers was Anderson regular Christine Glanville), but the producers borrowed one idea from Anderson - the use of Rupert's flying chariot in the stories allowed them to reduce unconvincing walking scenes to a minimum.
Every episode began with a shot of a mother reading a 'Rupert' story to her child. The camera then moved past the bed to where a Rupert doll was sat on the carpet near the closet. The show's narrator, Judy Bennett would then tell the viewers what that week's episode was about before the main characters were introduced on the title sequence: Rupert's parents; Bill Badger; PC Growler; Pong-Ping the Pekinese dog; Podgy Pig; Raggedy (Lord knows what he was, he had a head like a rotten beetroot!); and Edward Trunk, the elephant.
The uplifting theme tune, sung by Jackie Lee, reached No 14 in the UK singles charts.
Challange: Rupert Bear
Opticalillusion- media mynx life would be boring without hiccups Posted Aug 4, 2006
Challange: Rupert Bear
Smij - Formerly Jimster Posted Aug 4, 2006
I managed to see one episode of the series last year while researching a book about TV. It's a bit crude and aimed at the very young. The episode was about a bakery in the sky (!).
Challange: Rupert Bear
Opticalillusion- media mynx life would be boring without hiccups Posted Aug 23, 2006
still (comic) entries missing!!
Jimster when I typed in lemon to the search engine it gave me a lot of entries that were not Guide entry standard do these ever get completed? or deleted? Is there a limit on cyber h2g2 space?
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