h2g2 The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: Earth Edition

Why is it when you talk about creation you always go on about christianity there are other religions as well you know. All of them have there own ideas on the creation of every thing. Its not fair that you take the there wrong so all other religions are wrong as well approach. Why don't you look at Islam or hindu or what ever. You may be surprised.

"Why is it when you talk about creation "

You really must learn to read, boy. This entry is NOT about Creation. Look at the title again, and take a long, hard look at the last three letters. Now ask yourself "do I know what the word 'Creationism' means?". Clue: no, you don't, otherwise you wouldn't be bothering with this spurious post. If you'd bothered to read the glossary, which is linked to at the bottom of the article (but to save you the trouble - A730522), you'd know that Creationism is a specifically CHRISTIAN movement. But you didn't bother to find that out before coming here.

This is crucial to the definition. Islam, Hinduism, Baha'i, whatever, they're all IRRELEVANT to a consideration of Creationism. We are very specifically concerned here with a movement which takes place in countries, like the US and the UK, where the populace are generally well educated in science in an objective, secular framework. Creationism is a *reaction* against that secular framework.

Creationism is IRRELEVANT in countries where education is distorted by religious considerations already. It's a purely modern phenomenon - backward cultures which teach science from books over a thousand years old are not mature enough to need it.

Creationism is a religio-political movement, and its main aim is specifically to affect the science education of children in civilised countries. Creationism is, whether you like it or not, a specifically fundamentalist Christian movement.

If you can't understand that, or don't like it, you're free, of course, to write your own entry...

H.

My point is that these groups can be found in all religions, and will back up what they are saying by actually going against there religion and/or bending the rules of science. These people have just as much a lack of honesty and distort thr truth just as much as the mainly christian movement. For example I have found some sites that actually subtly change the words of there religious book to fit the scientific fact. Though they do not say that science is wrong like the chrisian groups they are still benders of the truth. Thanks to you I will not be saying about thermodynamics again. Its good to know that mister insult guy has not gone. How you doing? How's life and the job and the family? Do you have a family? Well see you around H. Good to know your still here.

Adib

"Thanks to you I will not be saying about thermodynamics again"

Words fail me. You have no idea how happy that makes me. That even one thing I've said has got through warms my heart, it really does. Much respect to you for actually changing your behaviour in the face of the facts - not something I've ever seen a Creationist Christian do, I might say.

I understand your point, but "Creationism" remains specifically a Christian reaction against secular education. To be honest, I would *expect* Islamic educational establishments to teach religious ideas about creation, so I wouldn't expect there to be any need for a movement against the teaching of evolution in those countries.

Am I wrong? Is there an Islamic equivalent to the Institute for Creation Research? I should be fascinated if there is.

Good to know you're still here, too...

H.

Well not as such but if look on the web you do find there are a few sights that actually change words and or science principles to suit there needs. There are many people who say they are religious but prove they are not by changing there religous book to suit there needs. I do not know first hand about in islamic countries but I would say there is not in Islamic countries as you are right about that. What I am referring to is the small groups you get in other countries who are trying to spread the religion but through lies and deciet.
Thanks for the kind words. I have asked you a guestion on one of the other pages as I thought it was important.

Adib

Hi

Thanks for dropping by Muzacboy. You are right of course that other religions have creation myths, (and as a buddhist I am more than aware that christianity is not the only religion in the world), but unfortunately Hoovooloo is right too.

This entry is about the origins of a specific fundamentalist christian response to scientific progress. The reason it does not discuss other creation myths (any more than it discusses the judaeo-christian one) is that it is not actually about creation myths at all.

Unfortunately I know too little about the creation myths of various cultures to write the entry you suggest.

Since you clearly know more, I suggest you get on out there and write it yourself. I look forward to meeting it.

Ben

And I have been.

Adib