A Conversation for Heidegger's Ultimate Question
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Blues Shark - For people who like this sort of thing, then this is just the sort of thing they'll like Started conversation Dec 18, 2001
Hi. I know this was a difficult subject, but I'm glad you persevered. This is a good article and I learnt something from it. It deals with an *incredibly* difficult subject concisely and in terms even I could understand.
I hope you think the hassle was worth it and that we can look forward to more of this good stuff.
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~ jwf ~ scribblo ergo sum Posted Dec 18, 2001
May I offer similar encouragement. (And my own special thanks for the anti-editorial rant 
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I must say I always ignored H as too modern to have anything of consequence to say. My mistake perhaps. But when one is young and sophomoric and thinks 'I know it all now', it is hard to imagine a contemporary philosopher ever improving upon the classics. I may have been wrong all these years. Thank you for introducing me to this modern thinker.
peace
jwf
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Grimethorpe2k1 Posted Dec 19, 2001
Many thanks for your messages, Blues Shark and John
Yes. In reality Heidegger is extremely difficult and I'm pleased that I made him accessible, Blues Shark, since he was more than a 'logic-chopper' (someone who argues for the sake of it), and what he has to say can be extremely interesting.(He did have his dark side though). And it was a very rocky ride getting the entry into the Guide, as my 'rant' shows, (embarrassing though it is
) Thanks
jwf - glad you enjoyed the rant
but I felt I had to go right OTT to finally get through to the italics. And here's a frightening statistic for you - 99% of all the philosophers who ever lived are alive at this moment!
Heidegger would have been extremely pleased that you called him a 'thinker' and not a philosopher, btw. I called him a 'philosopher' in the article so as not to be obscure.
Cheers,
Grime 
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~ jwf ~ scribblo ergo sum Posted Dec 19, 2001
Good point Grimie, the difference betwixt philosophers and thinkers.
I wasn't really conscious of the distinction I had made but you are right. Now that I consider my subconscious use of the terms I would define a 'philosopher' as someone who enjoys semantics and logic-play and the history of philosophy as an intellectual game (ie: most academic philosphers), while a thinker is bent on actually giving serious original thought to the question of life, the universe and everything.
I recall, many yarn ago, when American football on TV first became popular. Those who actually still attended the games referred to the home viewers as 'armchair quarterbacks'. It soon became a very trendy insult, to dismiss anyone's qualifications as amateurish, in any discipline, by referring to them as an 'armchair whatevers'.
But it didn't quite work and fell from favour, when someone tried to apply it to the 'armchair philospher', as that seemed to be the best place for them anyway. 
~jwf~
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Grimethorpe2k1 Posted Dec 20, 2001
But I know which sort of quarterback I'd rather be.......
Grime 
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Blues Shark - For people who like this sort of thing, then this is just the sort of thing they'll like Posted Dec 20, 2001
So do I, especially as quarterbacks can't fraternise with cheerleaders...
Or have got it wrong again?
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Grimethorpe2k1 Posted Dec 20, 2001
I think you're right, BluesShark, but if I spent more than 2 minutes (seconds?) as a quarterback in the NFL, I'd be quite unable to fraternise with anybody....let alone walk unaided to the ambulance
Grime
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Blues Shark - For people who like this sort of thing, then this is just the sort of thing they'll like Posted Dec 21, 2001
On the other hand, you couldn't actually be any worse than some of the bums and stiffs that are gracing the NFL at the moment, I'll be thinking...I mean, what are the Bengals playing at?
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Blues Shark - For people who like this sort of thing, then this is just the sort of thing they'll like Posted Dec 21, 2001
Ha hah ha. I've an idea for a new page...one for Armchair Quarterbacks. Interested?
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Grimethorpe2k1 Posted Dec 22, 2001
Or we could - just could - talk about the Heidegger entry?
Grime
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- 1: Blues Shark - For people who like this sort of thing, then this is just the sort of thing they'll like (Dec 18, 2001)
- 2: ~ jwf ~ scribblo ergo sum (Dec 18, 2001)
- 3: Grimethorpe2k1 (Dec 19, 2001)
- 4: ~ jwf ~ scribblo ergo sum (Dec 19, 2001)
- 5: Grimethorpe2k1 (Dec 20, 2001)
- 6: Blues Shark - For people who like this sort of thing, then this is just the sort of thing they'll like (Dec 20, 2001)
- 7: Grimethorpe2k1 (Dec 20, 2001)
- 8: Blues Shark - For people who like this sort of thing, then this is just the sort of thing they'll like (Dec 21, 2001)
- 9: Grimethorpe2k1 (Dec 21, 2001)
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