A Conversation for The Smiths - the Band

Nice family...the Smiths

Post 1

Livzy

..not sure about their dog, though.

tends to s**t all over my garden and try to shag your leg everytime it comes near you


Nice family...the Smiths

Post 2

Ormondroyd

Sounds like a typical smiley - dog to me... smiley - bigeyes


Nice family...the Smiths

Post 3

Borodino

Nice article, well informed and written. I got into them rather late (just as Rank was released) but saw Morrissey a couple of years ago at Battersea. Anyway, cheers.


Nice family...the Smiths

Post 4

Ormondroyd

Thank you! smiley - biggrin
You know Morrissey's song "You're The One For Me, Fatty"? When I first heard that, I was convinced that I heard him sing: "All over Battersea, some hope and some despair". I think I still prefer my version of the lyric to his... smiley - winkeye


Nice family...the Smiths

Post 5

Borodino

Erm - I thought 'Battersea' WAS the lyric. I remember first listening to 'Your Arsenal' and not liking the rockier sound, especially after the rather delicate 'Kill Uncle'. Grew on me, though. I dug out 'Hatful of Hollow' for the first time in a while the other day and was captivated by it. It really is a remarkable album.


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Post 6

Ormondroyd

Good grief - I've just checked that "Fatty" lyric and you're right! I'd just reasoned that the "Battersea" reference was too silly, and that it must really be "although we're bound to see..." Never again will I underestimate Morrissey's quirkiness! smiley - bigeyes
"Hatful Of Hollow" is all the more remarkable for the fact that it wasn't really a "proper" album, in the sense that it wasn't all recorded together as an album, but was a compilation of early odds and ends, such as radio sessions and demos. It's amazing how well it all holds together despite that.


Nice family...the Smiths

Post 7

Borodino

Yeah, I think a lot of it is Peel Sessions. The whole 'Your Arsenal' and 'Beethoven Was Deaf' period of Morrissey's career marked the high watermark of his curious fascination with the London criminal underworld, which began with the 'Kray' references in 'The Last Of The Famous International Playboys'. I think I'm right in saying that a single cover during this time features Joe Richardson, of the notorious South London 'firm' of the early Sixties. The book 'Peepholism', has some fantastic photos from this time.


Nice family...the Smiths

Post 8

bogbrushhair

Been listening to "Hatful Of Hollow" an lot recently. I'm only just getting into Morrissey's solo material though. What would you recommend?


Nice family...the Smiths

Post 9

Borodino

There are a few compilations out which are routinely slated by the music press but are nonetheless valuable sources of more obscure material. For a 'proper album', have a bash at 'Vauxhall and I' or the rockier 'Southpaw Grammar'. Best of luck - tell us how you get on.


what would I recommend.

Post 10

Livzy

..to someone who wants to listen to Morrisey's solo stuff?

Get out more
Make some friends
Take more stimulants
Give up wearing black scarves


what would I recommend.

Post 11

Ormondroyd

Spoken like a true Robbie Williams fan, Livzy... smiley - nahnah

I'd heartily recommend "Vauxhall & I" too. I'd say that's Mozzer's most consistently fine solo album. I'm also very fond of his most recent effort, "Maladjusted". Anyone who can write a song called "Satan Rejected My Soul" is fine by me. smiley - devil


what would I recommend.

Post 12

Livzy

*Thanks*

What would life be without a few inhrent prejudices along the way??!!


what would I recommend.

Post 13

Borodino

He's touring in the New Year, apparently. Dates to be announced in February.


what would I recommend.

Post 14

bogbrushhair

Thanks for all the advice [but I don't wear black scarves, sadly smiley - smiley]. I may go to see him live with a friend...marvellous smiley - smiley


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Post 15

Ormondroyd

It is good to hear that Mozzer's back in action. Hope he comes home to Britain for a couple of shows. I'd be there, waving my black scarf!
smiley - winkeye


what would I recommend.

Post 16

mad sash

I know that nobody is even looking at this conversation now, which I think is sad, in a depressed kind of way. I love the Smiths, the jingly, jangly guitar, the excellent lyrics. I still play them at top volume whenever I'm feeling down, and it is enough that I can sing along and still feel that somebody is worse off than me. My personal favourite is Bigmouth, because it reminds me of me.


what would I recommend.

Post 17

Ormondroyd

It's got to be the whole of 'The Queen Is Dead' for me. An absolutely fantastic album - sometimes beautiful, sometimes funny, constantly inventive and inspired. There are a few of the later singles that I really love too: 'Sheila Take A Bow', 'Panic', 'Shoplifters Of The World Unite'.

Hope getting a reply wasn't too much of a shock! smiley - winkeye


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Post 18

GreyDesk

BOO!!! Make that two repliessmiley - smiley

I totally agree with the sentiments about "The Queen Is Dead". Its been my all time favourite album since I first heard it. I do have a soft spot for "Strangeways" as well.

The funny thing is that I really have no time for anything that Morrissey or Marr produced after the split. I guess The Smiths were a band that was more than the sum of their parts. They also rather spoilt the memory when it came out that they were ripping off Andy and Mike on the division of the royalties. Can either of you remember how that sorry saga finished?


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Post 19

Ormondroyd

It finished with Mike Joyce much better off and poor Andy Rourke much less so. See Footnote 4 at the end of the Smiths Entry. smiley - smiley


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Post 20

GreyDesk

Yeah, I noticed the footnote when I clicked back through the article.

*note to self: read ALL of an entry before asking questions* smiley - smiley


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