A Conversation for 'The Complete Robot' by Isaac Asimov
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Pastey Posted Nov 2, 2000
And a joy it was to edit and read
Although I did have to dig out my old copy of The Complete Robot to get the Laws right
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The Cow Posted Nov 3, 2000
He invented the word 'Robotics', by the way...
Can we use ... tags (or similar) in GuideML?
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HollePolle Posted Nov 3, 2000
Good question!
Just participating, because I also want to know about that!
Rule Zero....
Crescent Posted Nov 3, 2000
...in one of his later books (one of the later Foundation ones I think) one of the Robots had a new law, Law Zero. Coming before the others it says that 'A robot may not harm, or through inaction allow harm to befall, humanity' or something along those lines. The first law then becomes 'A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm, as long as it does not conflict with Law Zero' etc. This was used to explain the disappearance of the robots etc. I have carried this useless fact long enough Now I can lay my burden to rest Until later....
BCNU - Crescent
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BigEric Posted Nov 3, 2000
Thanks for a pleasant, and I thought accurate, precis of Isaac Asimov's early works. I read them as a boy 30+ years ago and enjoyed them because of their scientific bent. My view is that scientists write better speculative fiction than arty farties (Tom Lehrer is another example - I understand his works which include classics such as "Poisoning Pigeons in the Park" and the "Periodic Table of Elements" are enjoying populist revival). Did you see the recent(ish) film called "Millenium Man" starring Robin Williams? I noticed it drew on IA's Laws and thought it was charming, and true to the Master's speculative vision. I was pleased to have watched it because it, like Asimov's early works, contained a moral which provokes greater thought.
Oh, and the final observation: did'nt the great man get things charmingly wrong! He assumed that microprocessor development would be mirrored by the rate of development in other technologies, particularly the mechanical bits and bobs. He couldn't see that the future would consist of countless clever little doodads in countless locations - he foresaw few clever creations moving around. Which just goes to show how Man consistently gets priorities wrong in technological development.
And at this point I would refer you to the blessed DNA's piece about his lifetime experience of the development of computers - which again I found fascinating and thought-provoking.
With best wishes and apols for the lengthy reply : it was your fault for getting me over-excited !
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Casanova the Short Posted Nov 3, 2000
When you say Millennium Man, do you not mean Bicentennial Man? If so (which was a film starring Robin Williams), then no I didn't see it, but I read the book. It was in fact a short story also called "Bicentennial Man", by a very good author called Asimov whom I can heartily recommend.
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Zebedee (still Pool God after all these years) Posted Nov 4, 2000
I have to say - fantastic entry! It's provoked many fond memories and I think I'll be off down the bookshop over the weekend....
And as soon as I think of something intelligent to add I'll be back!
(the terminator pun wasn't intentional, btw......)
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Casanova the Short Posted Nov 4, 2000
(sits and stares at the monitor for five minutes, trying to think of whatever it was he was about to write....)
Well, I'm really pleased that everyone likes this entry! So pleased, in fact, I've gone bug-eyed. I only write these things in the odd bit of spare time I get, and didn't really expect there to be much response. Thanks everyone!!!
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BigEric Posted Nov 4, 2000
Thank you, Casanova. I stand corrected (and humbled) by your superior knowledge.
The Cow
BigEric Posted Nov 4, 2000
You been grazing on the wrong sort of grass, Cow ?
Nice to hear from you again.
Keep smiling
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$u$ Posted Nov 4, 2000
It is indeed 'Bicentennial Man', and it's out on video now, and I watched it last night.
Then 'coincidentally' I found this brand spanking new entry on Asimov's robots! *of course, nothing ever happens by chance*
Now to add my new thread, 'The Positronic Brain'...
~A~
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Uncle Heavy [sic] Posted Nov 6, 2000
Do you fancy doing a timeline/precis of all Azimovs robotic works? I love them, but they're hard to find
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The Cow Posted Nov 6, 2000
Also, which short stories are in which books... tried to find 'Robot AL-xx goes Astray' for a b/day pressie...
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- 1: Casanova the Short (Oct 18, 2000)
- 2: Pastey (Nov 2, 2000)
- 3: The Cow (Nov 3, 2000)
- 4: HollePolle (Nov 3, 2000)
- 5: Crescent (Nov 3, 2000)
- 6: Casanova the Short (Nov 3, 2000)
- 7: Casanova the Short (Nov 3, 2000)
- 8: Casanova the Short (Nov 3, 2000)
- 9: BigEric (Nov 3, 2000)
- 10: Casanova the Short (Nov 3, 2000)
- 11: The Cow (Nov 3, 2000)
- 12: Zebedee (still Pool God after all these years) (Nov 4, 2000)
- 13: Casanova the Short (Nov 4, 2000)
- 14: BigEric (Nov 4, 2000)
- 15: BigEric (Nov 4, 2000)
- 16: The Cow (Nov 4, 2000)
- 17: $u$ (Nov 4, 2000)
- 18: HollePolle (Nov 6, 2000)
- 19: Uncle Heavy [sic] (Nov 6, 2000)
- 20: The Cow (Nov 6, 2000)
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