A Conversation for Dreams
Types of Dreams
Bluebottle Posted Nov 18, 1999
Hmmm.. I usually let quite a bit of light into my room at night as it wakes me up earlier without the jolt of an alarm clock, or the reluctance to get out of bed. Yet it doesn't always work, and can be annoying getting to sleep.
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Lupa Mirabilis, Serious Inquisitor Posted Nov 19, 1999
I think it's pretty light in my room in the mornings. Any lighter and I'd have trouble getting to sleep. I do sometimes remember my dreams on weekends...if I go back to sleep after my roommate takes off for parts unknown and then wake up later.
Types of Dreams
Bluebottle Posted Nov 19, 1999
Otherwise all that you have said in this forum would be a lie...
One thing that would help is if anyone we know has any ideas to help get some sleep, or How to dream.
The best way to get some sleep would be to go here:
http://www.h2g2.com/A203716
But what's the best way to dream?
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Lupa Mirabilis, Serious Inquisitor Posted Nov 20, 1999
Ay, there's the rub...
But in this forum, I've mostly been talking about the dreams I used to have back when I could remember them, which wasn't that long ago. Although I did have some last night that I could vaguely remember when I woke up, but that didn't stay in my memory very long since I couldn't remember what the point of them had been.
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Bluebottle Posted Nov 20, 1999
(apologise for earlier spam - but it is very boring and would help you sleep)
I don't know about you, but after I've awaken, if I remember the dream at all, I know whether it's fading or not. If I feel it's fading, I know I won't remember it, if not, I'll remember it for a long time. I often just remember a snatch or an image of it - just enough to realise what the dream was about.
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Lupa Mirabilis, Serious Inquisitor Posted Nov 21, 1999
My dreams always fade--for each snatch I remember, I have to make a deliberate effort to recall the whole dream associated with it, or it fades away completely, only to be remembered if I have the same dream again. Usually this is annoying, but it does have its up side, I discovered recently when I had one of _those_ dreams about someone I'd rather not have had it about, and decided as soon as I realized it that I just wasn't going to remember the details. And I didn't.
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Bluebottle Posted Nov 21, 1999
Ahh, but it appears you still remember that you had it...
If only there were ways to control what you do and don't dream about - sometimes, if I am half-awake, I can vaguely control my dream, but not usually. Have you ever been able to do that?
Trousers - Go on - Just Do It.
Taipan - Jack of Hearts Posted Nov 29, 1999
Hi guy, and welcome to the guide - I know you've been here a couple of weeks already, but you haven't created anything on your own page yet, so guys like me have no option but to welcome you in forums, rather than a splendiforous posting on your home page.
Bite the Bullet! Hit the Edit Page link.
Types of Dreams
The Sorcerer Posted Nov 29, 1999
The best type of dream is a Lucid Dream because you realise that your dreaming but don't wake up. The sure you become that you are actually dreaming the more control you get over the dream and it still feels incredibly real.
(Or maybe I'm just wierd...?)
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Researcher Horay II Posted Dec 2, 1999
Your not wierd. The people I know who studie this amazing aspect of dreams call it dreaming awake. Maybe thats what you call it.
This form of dreaming, which is to utalize the dream and its enhanced forms of percieving, was a technique that the ancient seers in mexico thousands of years ago. They would teach the technique to thier aprentices, and to this day there are those who carry on this art. The purpose in utalizing thier dreams was to anhance the scope of thier perception. Believing perception to be more then a mental routine to be used in their daily lives.
I have had many dreams in which, as you said, one awakens and finds themselvs still dreaming. But to accomplish this act of turning the chaotic flow of dreams into an orderly and functioning awarness takes alot of work and can cause drastic changes in ones daily affairs. It is good to know thier are some open minded people out thier who can take this subject with more seriousness. (bad speller, i know).
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The Sorcerer Posted Dec 2, 1999
I didn't realise my "wierd dreams" were so significant.
This stuff sounds kinda cool but I only ever have them rarely and have never tried to "make" myself have one, I didn't know you could.
Types of Dreams
Researcher Horay II Posted Dec 2, 1999
Listen. Those ancient seers i've mentioned before believed that human awarness was a moldable fasit of thier beings.
To this end the develuped of thousands of years an art known as the art of dreaming. With this art they were able to discover untold
realms of being at otherwise would ne inaccessable. In dreams, one has the ability to do many profound things: uncover hidden secrets, travel to real places, and learn more about even the world in which we spend are daily lives.
It is still toaght today, from teacher to disiple, and they first explain that the first step to dreaming awake is to 'force' are awarness to stay put. A simple technique for this is to look at your hands. Before you go to sleep, say to yourself that you are going to find your hands in your dream. It might happen right away or it may take awhile, depending on how intesns your desire is for it.
Once you find your hands, don't stair at them long for it will turn back into an ordinary dream, turn your gaze to another item and then return to your hands. In this way you train your awarness to 'hold' a dream so to speak rather then let the flow of the dream carry
you back to oblivious happenings.
The seers of ancient mexico made a distinction between 'Dreaming Awake' and ordinary dreams. After you have learned to hold the dream in place (it gets easier the more you practice) then do things. Try to fly, or change the items in your dream into other things, or
change the dream by choosing another topic. Eventually after considerable practice, you can even awaken in the daily world with your 'dreaming body'.
The first time I dreamed awake, I was having a regular dream in which some friends and I were walking in a building down the hall.
I entered a room and in thier in realized i was dreaming. A friend urged me to continue down the hall, but i refused knowing that if i left the room, i would forget i was dreaming. So he left. I turned my attention to a box of clothing that was in the center of the room.
I pointed my finger at the box and said, "chair!" in order to turn it into one. Like a command. It didn't happen at first, I did it maybe 3 or 4 times and it did become a chair. I was so happy that i awoke by accedent. Anyways hope this helps.
Types of Dreams
Lupa Mirabilis, Serious Inquisitor Posted Dec 4, 1999
I've lucid-dreamed a few times. I don't usually have much control, but sometimes when I'm being chased or something I can make myself invisible, or when I'm being held captive I can get away. That's always useful.
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Haze: Plan C seems to be working Posted Dec 4, 1999
Does it count if you're having a nightmare, realise that it's a dream and ingore the overwhelming fear to watch what happens, instead of deciding to wake up? I have done this from time to time.
What about if you become aware that you're dreaming, decide that since you know that everything happening is a construct of your own, and decide to walk through a door into another dream, in which you will forget that you are dreaming.
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Bluebottle Posted Dec 4, 1999
I must admit that neither of them have happened to me before - but I have had dreams where if something goes wrong, I can rewind the dream and make it happen all right - and actually people walk backwards etc when it happens - quite fun. I can also, somehow, remember a pleasant dream I've had that night, and have it again - exactly identical as far as I can tell - so if I have a good dream, I usually have it twice, and it's easier to remember.
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Researcher Horay II Posted Dec 4, 1999
The thing about dreams is that its a far too unexamined state. I suggest to anyone: experiment. Try to be imaginative and do and learn things that you may have never thought of before. In dreams or in waking. If you have a paper to write and are at a loss, ask your dreams for the anser. You be surprised at the results. Just make use of that state; it would be a shame to waiste 40% of your life.
Another exciting thing to consider which will give you hint at the awsomeness of that state: is our awarness the only awarness of a dreamer, or what else is dreaming this dream? One of the most important findings to those ancient seers was that organic life was not the only thing that possesses awarnes. finding another kind of life,they are known today as in-organic beings, which have no form, are made of pure energy at thier base, just as we are found to be energy at are base, and they use the avenue of dreaming to seek out other dreamers out thier in the unierse. Becareful, most of the time they are hunting prey like a spider with ingeniuse dream webs.
But they have alot to teach and they are the ones who tought the ancients all thier 'powerful' manuvers.
They are known by sorcerers today as allys. Being formless thier is no physical equivelant in are daily life's standerds. But they take on any familiar item that a given dreamer is familiar with, anything.
The first time I dreamed of the allys, I was living in the mountains of northern New Mexico. One lazy afternoon,(after having done alot of dreaming awake already), I was reading a book on the porch. I set it down and thought I heard a voice saying,"greetings."
Thinking I had just thought I heard it, I walk inside, lay on a couch and tried to does off. As I layed there, in a thoroughly unrelated manner, I pondered aloud as I staired at an icon of the virgin Mary, "I wonder if thier are any allys!"
I was asleep. But I came to with great difficulty, like I was really drunk. It was hard to focused my attention on anything. I didn't have time to think about it but I knew the feeling as it was the second time in my life that I had 'awaken' in the daily world. Such a state requires a hell of alot of practice to learn how to handle,( you are not a physical body, your awarness is pure energy. Are first reaction in order to move would be to use your body, your arms and legs when you don't hae any and find you can't move at all) Moving in that state requires you cultivate a feeling seers call 'will'. but thats another story.
I was staring at a faceless head, I knew it was a head and spoke like a male but it had the color of grey denum. It said,"Greetings."
We talked for alittle bit but try as I may I can't remember about what. Then the head made some kind of notion that indicated I should look across the room. In that state it seemed I 'soured' across a vast space to a women who was none other then the virgin Mary. She spoke to me saying,"When you are in @#$%^,"(a word in some long forgotten ancient language that somehow I knew to mean dreaming awake),"You should never &*(@#." this last word was also in that old wording but this time I did not understand its meaning.
Seancing my confusion, she says to me and transelates,"sex with females."
(bear with me)
I have been warned that a dreamer should not waiste his energy in sex. Seers believe that the energy used in sex is the same energy used for dreams saying either one uses it for making love or in dreaming.
The other thing I can say that it wasn't 'the' virgin Mary(but then who is?) Inorganic beings come in the form of familiar items into ones dreams. I just pointed them out to let you understand the scope we're talkin here. anyways i hate to be long and thanx for indulging me in this letter, hope it has use. Oh- almost forgot, the 'head' i was talking to, when I awoke I realised it was my knee I was stairing at which was bent upwards.
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Lupa Mirabilis, Serious Inquisitor Posted Dec 9, 1999
Oh, and: Yes, I do remember that I had the dream, but believe me, that's a lot less unpleasant than actually having images from it flash into my head at random moments...or whenever I see the person....
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Researcher Horay II Posted Dec 9, 1999
Still trying to wake up..! Insomnia at 4am at 20 f. Boy is it cold out there!!
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- 62: Lupa Mirabilis, Serious Inquisitor (Nov 19, 1999)
- 63: Bluebottle (Nov 19, 1999)
- 64: Lupa Mirabilis, Serious Inquisitor (Nov 20, 1999)
- 65: Bluebottle (Nov 20, 1999)
- 66: Lupa Mirabilis, Serious Inquisitor (Nov 21, 1999)
- 67: Bluebottle (Nov 21, 1999)
- 68: Taipan - Jack of Hearts (Nov 29, 1999)
- 69: The Sorcerer (Nov 29, 1999)
- 70: Researcher Horay II (Dec 2, 1999)
- 71: The Sorcerer (Dec 2, 1999)
- 72: Researcher Horay II (Dec 2, 1999)
- 73: Sorcerer (Dec 3, 1999)
- 74: Lupa Mirabilis, Serious Inquisitor (Dec 4, 1999)
- 75: Haze: Plan C seems to be working (Dec 4, 1999)
- 76: Bluebottle (Dec 4, 1999)
- 77: Researcher Horay II (Dec 4, 1999)
- 78: reyesearcher2000 (Dec 4, 1999)
- 79: Lupa Mirabilis, Serious Inquisitor (Dec 9, 1999)
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