A Conversation for Orchestras

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Post 1

Eomando (it is it is it is 2 years now!!! 8-) )

Somebody help me please...

...I need to know what the range of the bassoon & horn are...in concert pitch...

...I'd really appreciate it if anyone happened to know...smiley - smiley

...Thanks.smiley - smiley

E.


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Post 2

J'au-æmne

The range of a Bassoon is from the Bflat a tone below C 2 8ves below middle C; It goes up to the D a tone above the C an octave above middle C.
Sorry, not being a horn player I can't tell you that one at this point...


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Post 3

Eomando (it is it is it is 2 years now!!! 8-) )

Thanks Joanna.smiley - bigeyes I know a bassoon player, but I can't ask her... You've helped a lot.smiley - bigeyes I am so happy.smiley - bigeyes Now I know it can play what I want it to playsmiley - bigeyessmiley - bigeyessmiley - bigeyes

Even if you don't know the range of the horn, do you know which way you're supposed to transpose for it...?


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Post 4

J'au-æmne

The horn's key is in F, so where they see a C they play an F. They have a huge range, though... as I recall from when we did Shostakovich 5, they have to go down to the G on the bottom line of the bass stave, and up to the b-flat nearly two octaves above middle C. Making them go that high (or that low) is not encouraged, however, cause you need *really* good players.


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Post 5

Eomando (it is it is it is 2 years now!!! 8-) )

Wow...that really is a huge range...thankfully, the computers going to be playing this so I suppose I don't have to count on good players...but that's far more of a range than I need...smiley - smiley

...I know they're in F, but I mean to I transpose down a 5th or up a 4th...? I never know which way to go... I suppose I'll get the same result either way...


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Post 6

J'au-æmne

I think down a 4th, but I'm not quite sure.


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Post 7

Eomando (it is it is it is 2 years now!!! 8-) )

Did you mean *down*, cos then that would be a G...I get confused about this... Transposing for Alto Sax get me confused as well though...I don't know which way to go for that... I'll figure it out...somehow... I've got a feeling that I'll be hijacking horn players on Monday...smiley - winkeye


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Post 8

J'au-æmne

I think that if the player thinks he's playing middle C, IRL he's playing F below middle C. I think. All that will happen regardless of how you do it for now is that you may need to transpose it all up or down an octave.


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Post 9

Eomando (it is it is it is 2 years now!!! 8-) )

Which will mean that I'll need to just do it, then listen to the results & decide if it's OK...


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Post 10

J'au-æmne

Yep!smiley - smiley


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Post 11

Nieve

I suppose this is too late to help, but it's up a fifth, to compensate for the horn's tone being lower than, say, a flute. It's a lot more obvious with the picture so here:
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o (C)
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o (F)
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It's fairly easy to see that to make the tone the same you have to move it up three spaces and two lines totaling five notes (remembering to count the beginning and ending space).


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