h2g2 The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: Earth Edition

Selectively quoting this:

But missing this out: <...I know it's not. It's an analogy trying to convey a general idea.>

And then saying I put this forward as an example of an axiom? That was unworthy of you. We have disagreed, but I had great respect for your intellect and debating skill. Then you come up with a school playground trick like this?

Pattern-chaser

"Who cares, wins"

(copied from axioms thread)
I guess I must have been thinking of your earlier assertion in post 49:

>>"Do you see any use at all in denying that what you 'see' is the 'real world'? That what you are looking at is the real world is axiomatic to your understanding of it. To deny it, or talk of the confidence you have in your evidence is meaningless. Either you go along with it or you don't. *This* is the best I can do to convey to you what an axiom is all about, and how you can't 'doubt' it. You take it on faith, or not."

and simply grabbed a shorter piece of text you wrote (in post 53) saying the same thing without noticing your follow-on self-contradiction. Even *I'm* capable of skim-reading when frustrated and looking for text that is in line with what someone pretty clearly did say hours before.

I guess I'm more used to people who keep on roughly the same track throughout the course of a day, and must have been using my sysadmin skills of scanning through files looking for the needed stuff whilst remaining mercifully oblivious to the rest .
My bad.


If the best you can do to try to convey a general idea of what an axiom is is by describing something that first is, and then both is-and-isn't an axiom, despite seemingly being by your reckoning an 'assumption lacking proof (or evidence?)' on which reasoning is based, which *seems* to fit your description of what an axiom actually is, I'd guess that might explain why you asked for other people's opinions.
Not sure it explains why you bother arguing about what axioms are if you can't actually explain them, though.

If you can't give meaningful examples of axioms that stand up to some kind of scrutiny, there seems little point debating with you.